Lock-down ‘putting lives at risk’

Dr Sucharit Bhakdi

Dr Sucharit Bhakdi in his informative video

The new UK Government-announced lock-down is putting people’s lives at risk, according to a leading microbiologist. Indeed, Dr Sucharit Bhakdi, an infectious medicine specialist, says the UK response is ‘Grotesque, absurd and very dangerous.’

The softly-spoken Professor Bhakdi is one of the most highly cited medical research scientists in Germany.

P.S. Thursday: Email your MP from this link; you have to click on their name twice to reach their email address. Witness to your MP using the material here. Note we say people should take obvious health precautions, and those at risk can remain in isolation. But the general economy must now return to normal, especially with Imperial College now downgrading their mortality prediction by a factor of 12.5. (See below).


Meanwhile, Mail on Sunday journalist Peter Hitchens is emerging as one of the few, beside ourselves, trying to hold the Government to account, asking them challenging questions about liberty and the economy, and being vilified for it. OK, ok, some others are Off-Guardian, Swiss Propaganda Research, Rob Slane’s Blogmire and Craig Murray.

The House of Commons, the BBC, ITV, Sky, the mainstream media are all sycophantically following the Government line, or even calling for ‘stronger’ measures. No-one is saying ‘hang on a moment!’ They have all, to quote Dr Bhakdi, been ‘spooked’.

Labour, of course love the idea of a universal wage.  It is part of their socialist utopia.  They also want the Government to micro-manage our lives.  What excuse do the journalists have?  We shall try to inject some clarity, remembering the source of all wisdom is fear of God, not fear of a virus:

Prov 9:10 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding.

Informed Prayer

The Bible says:

1Tim 2:1 I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men; 2 For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty.

Your prayer for those in power will be better informed by being aware of the respected professor’s analysis.

Read the transcript of Dr Bhakdi’s interview here.

Watch his measured interview, in German with English subtitles, here.

Listen to Peter Hitchens in interview on LBC here.

Read Peter Hitchens on the shutdown and our liberties in MailOnline here.

Bad advice from Imperial College

Peter Hitchens speaking at Sidney Sussex College, Cambridge

Peter Hitchens speaking at Sidney Sussex College, Cambridge

Christian Voice continues to say the Government is over-reacting to Covid-19 and should simply advocate isolating anyone frail or with a susceptible medical condition. We remember the ‘figures’ upon which they have made their decisions depend on the information the experts put into the model in the first place.

We also advocate widespread available testing, as per South Korea.

In fact Mr Hitchens quotes a leading vet, Dick Sibley, who remembers the 2001 foot-and-mouth outbreak. His ‘heart sank’ when he learned Imperial College were advising the Government.

Their advice in 2001, he says, led to ‘the unnecessary slaughter of millions of healthy cattle and sheep’. Their bad advice was eventually ‘overruled by the then Chief Scientific Adviser, Sir David King.’

The Imperial prophecy of doom led to the Government imposing this week’s extraordinary shutdown. They said without such rules the disease could claim up to 250,000 lives.  The salient words are ‘could’ and ‘up to’.  It all depends on their initial assumptions.  As the geeks say: ‘Garbage in, garbage out’.

Covid-19 downgraded

Astonishingly, Covid-19 was downgraded from being classified as a High Consequence Infectious Disease in the UK last Thursday, 19th March.  This, according to the Government’s own webpage, was mainly because the public health bodies in the UK concluded: ‘more information is available about mortality rates (low overall).’

I’m struggling to understand this.  Our public health bodies decided Covid-19 was no longer a HCID.  Four days later the nation was plunged into lock-down over it.  That never happened over bird flu or SARS which remain HCID’s. Why the power-grab and why the moves to destroy the self-employed sector?

P.S. (Thursday AM). In addition, Neil Ferguson at Imperial College has now downgraded his advice.  It won’t be 250,000 deaths, it will 20,000 in the worst case or ‘substantially lower.’  Hospitals are right now ‘within capacity’ to cope.  And this just nine days after the doom scenario which led to the lock-down.  He is not back-tracking on the lock-down, however.  Instead he is calling for “large scale testing and contact tracing” to ‘bring an end to the lockdown’.

Spanish Flu

This year marks the hundredth anniversary of the end of Spanish Flu. The epidemic raged from January 1918 to December 1920. That’s three full years of misery as the First World War was ending and people trying to put their lives back in order. The Great War left 22 million dead.  Spanish Flu killed perhaps one quarter to a third of the world’s population, perhaps 50 million.

But the Daily Express reveals Spanish Flu hit the young hardest. Those in their twenties and thirties were most at risk of dying. That is the complete opposite to Covid-19, which attacks those with respiratory issues, compromised immune systems, diabetes, obesity and coronary diseases.

Less advanced medical care and poorer nutrition may have contributed to the death toll from Spanish Flu.

Gassed last night

One haunting parallel with the First World War itself has been going through my mind. It’s the second verse of a song (Bombed last night) displaying typically dour squaddies’ gallows humour:

Gassed last night, and gassed the night before
Going to get gassed tonight;
If we never get gassed anymore
When we’re gassed, we’re sick as we can be
For Phosgene and Mustard Gas is much too much for me.
They’re warning us, they’re warning us,
One respirator for the four of us
Thank your lucky stars that three of us can run,
So one of us can use it all alone.

‘One respirator for the four of us’ just about sums up the current apparent predicament of the NHS.

People need to earn

Construction workers have now been allowed to work, so long as they maintain a two metre social distance from each other, according to reports and despite railing from ITV’s Piers Morgan, who seems oblivious that ordinary people need to earn money to house themselves and put food on their table. Indeed, if only ‘essential work’ should go on, how ‘essential’ is the work of an over-paid TV loud-mouth?

The Government have already announced they will cover 80% of the wages of those who would otherwise be laid off. They are now working on how to extend that to the self-employed. Questions to the Prime Minister in Parliament today were all about how people could be ‘supported’ by the Government. Not one asked whether it might be better to get people back into work, or even ask where the money is coming from.

But this money will have to come from taxation or borrowing. How much better to have urged us all to take simple proper precautions, isolated those at real risk, rolled out testing, and encouraged the rest of us to keep calm and carry on?

Work: the gift of God

Let us just remind ourselves we are not being ‘materialistic’. We are not putting money before lives, as if it were a binary choice. Firstly, being in work is generally an indicator of better health. Secondly, and above all, Almighty God takes pleasure in men enjoying the fruits of their honest labour:

Eccl 3:13 And also that every man should eat and drink, and enjoy the good of all his labour, it is the gift of God.

So ‘Love thy neighbour’ does not just mean ‘slavishly support the Government and take their word for it’. We are to be prophetic, and depriving a man or woman of their means of livelihood is an oppression of the poor and their rights:

Mal 3:5 And I will come near to you to judgment; and I will be a swift witness against the sorcerers, and against the adulterers, and against false swearers, and against those that oppress the hireling in his wages, the widow, and the fatherless, and that turn aside the stranger from his right, and fear not me, saith the LORD of hosts.

Keep the Tube running!

Health Secretary Rt Hon Matt Hancock has decisions to make. We must pray for wisdom to avert economic disaster.

Health Secretary Rt Hon Matt Hancock has decisions to make. We must pray for wisdom to avert economic disaster.

The one bright spot this morning has been Health Secretary Matt Hancock expressing amazement at the partial closures of the London Underground. We criticised those days ago. He urged Transport for London to run a full service.

But even then, astonishingly, the Independent reports he was castigated as ‘irresponsible’ by the rail worker’s union who echoed Labour’s socialist utopianism in calling for everyone to go home and the Government to pay them:

‘The general secretary of the RMT transport union Mick Cash said: “At a time when we are trying to encourage people to stay away from the Tube so we can concentrate on moving essential workers the government call ‎to reinstate a full service is grossly irresponsible as it suggests it’s business as usual.

‘”The real problem is this government’s refusal to give any wage support to casualised workers who will receive no income if they don’t travel and go to work”.’

Inept text message

The Government sent an inept text message to millions of mobile subscribers from ‘UKAGov’ yesterday. It caused no end of people to wonder ‘How does the Government know my mobile number?’ In fact they persuaded the mobile operators to sent it to all their subscribers.  HMG didn’t actually know your number at all, it just looked that way, as this news report explains.

The message told subscribers to ‘stay at home’ and directed them to its website: gov.uk/coronavirus for exceptions. Then it repeated and amplified the direction:

‘Stay at home.
‘Protect the NHS.
‘Save lives.’

Protect the NHS

It is curious that ‘Protect the NHS’ was in there, because actually, fear of the NHS being ‘overwhelmed’ is what is driving the Government panic. But, excuse me, how long have the Conservatives been in office? How long have they had to make sure the NHS is properly resourced, or to explain to us that it never can be? When did coronavirus first start in China? When did it become apparent there would a need for extra ventilators? It is really that difficult to set up field hospitals and pop-up wards in Excel Centre if Imperial College are correct? How many people are they expecting will need beds? For that matter, how many extra beds end up occupied in our annual flu episodes?

Bloomberg reports how well Japan is coping with Covid-19. But it also says:

‘Should Japan see a jump, it may be better suited than many peers to handle the surge. It has about 13 hospital beds per 1,000 people, the highest among Group of Seven nations and more than triple the rate for Italy, the U.S., U.K. and Canada, according to World Bank data.’

Germany has a current low death rate associated with Covid-19.  We should note that Germany has 29.2 critical care beds per 100,000 people. Italy has 12.5 while the UK has just 6.6, according to wired.co.uk.

South Korea, on the other hand, is well on the way to beating the virus through widespread testing, as the Guardian reports.

Aghast at Italy

Governments around the world are aghast at what has happened in Italy, where cases continued to rise despite a draconian ‘lock-down’. The curve was easily outstripping China’s experience. Then again, as Dr Bhakdi explains, northern Italy is heavily polluted, with many people facing respiratory challenges already.

Cases and deaths are increasing more slowly now in Italy. But once again, recorded deaths are high compared with recorded cases, indicating that many more people are simply contracting the virus and recovering.

In addition, off-guardian reports, 99.2% of deaths in Italy had pre-existing conditions. Many were already at death’s door. We also hear twice as many elderly men have died in Italy as women. Women fight coronaviruses better than men.

Here is Worldometer on the current figures from Italy.

Here is Worldometer on the current figures from China

Lack of Testing in the UK

And here is Worldometer on the current UK figures.

At this time of writing figures stood at 422 deaths in the UK, a daily rise of 87, and 8,077 cases, a rise of 1,427.  135 people have ‘recovered’.  Note that the figures for those ‘recovered’ only refer to people who have attended hospital and been discharged. In stark contrast to South Korea, the UK is only testing those who have shown up in hospital with symptoms.

No-one else who has been exposed to the virus is included. That means all who shrugged it off without symptoms, or had symptoms at home and recovered after a few days do not make the UK, or the Italian, figures. An epidemiologist on the BBC on Monday admitted the total number of cases in the UK would be well into the tens, even hundreds, of thousands, because so many cases are not being recorded.

In the UK, it isn’t even possible for a key NHS worker to know if they actually have the virus. They are not allowed to be tested. They have to go home and self-isolate for seven days regardless.

Excess winter deaths

So far to date there have been 422 deaths in the UK. How many people do you think die in the UK every day in ‘normal circumstances’?

The figures from the Office of National Statistics show there were 541,589 deaths in England and Wales in 2018. That’s just over ten thousand a week and just under 1500 per day.

Furthermore, ONS reveals what it calls ‘excess winter deaths’. These occur between December and March. In winter 2018-19 they stood at 23,200. The previous year, 2017-18, there were 47,410 excess winter deaths in England and Wales.

Respiratory diseases were the biggest single cause (circa 45%), with pneumonia leading. They were followed by circulatory diseases (20%+) and then by dementia and Alzheimer’s disease (19%+).  And yet, somehow, even with 47,410 excess deaths, around 1900 per day, the NHS coped in 2017-18. There was no field ward set up in a leisure centre.

Exact cause of death

In fact, Professor Bhakdi points out that winter excess deaths were either brought on by influenza or by various coronaviruses already circulating. However, the actual written-down ’cause of death’ is what actually killed the poor people. That would be a heart attack, or pneumonia. So to write ‘Covid-19’ as a cause of death of someone who actually died of pneumonia could be somewhat convenient.

Vox.com reports that the heat wave of 2003 killed at least 30,000 people in Europe. A Twitter user suggested 4,000 of those deaths occurred in Italy ‘from a simple heatwave’.  He urged a sense of proportion when we look at Covid-19 figures, sad as every death is.  And let us remember the reality.  We shall all go that way, and that is why faith in Jesus Christ together with his forgiveness, is so important:

Job 30:23 For I know that thou wilt bring me to death, and to the house appointed for all living. 

Heb 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

Coronavirus here ‘since January’

Dr Suntra Gupta

Dr Suntra Gupta, ‘surprised’ by universal acceptance of the Imperial College prophecy of doom.

Meanwhile, an Oxford University study claims coronavirus could already have infected half the British population. It might have been spreading in the UK since January, says Dr Sunetra Gupta. Modelling by Oxford’s Evolutionary Ecology of Infectious Disease group suggests Covid-19 first reached the UK by mid-January.

Dr Gupta is Professor of theoretical epidemiology at Oxford. If the learned professor is right, the true size of the outbreak is likely to be closer to the 400,000 mark. It is very possible that half the population has already been exposed to Covid-19.

Widespread testing is needed to assess the theory, said Dr Gupta. ‘We need immediately to begin large-scale serological surveys – antibody testing – to assess what stage of the epidemic we are in now,’ she said.

The Daily Mail reports: ‘The Oxford university research offers a contrasting view on the disease to the study that is informing government policy. It was carried out by experts at Imperial College London.

‘”I am surprised that there has been such unqualified acceptance of the Imperial model,’ Professor Gupta told the Financial Times”.’ That is a devastating put-down.

Negative Health Outcomes

And as Dr Bhakdi says in his video, plunging people into poverty has negative health outcomes down the line. that is what makes the current UK approach ‘dangerous’ in his view. On top of that, seeing family and friends, going out, are the things which make life worth living. This particularly applies to the elderly, but affects us all.

In this view, those who went out in the park or up on Snowdonia last weekend were not irresponsible.  They were not not ‘idiots’ or ‘morons’, pace Piers Morgan. They were following government advice to take exercise and they were trying to keep some semblance of normality going.

Prince Charles has symptoms

The BBC reports that the Prince of Wales has now tested positive for coronavirus.

The Prince of Wales has contracted Covid-19 from someone he met out and about, has mild symptoms and is recovering, as we should expect.

The Prince of Wales has contracted Covid-19 from someone he met out and about, has mild symptoms and is recovering, as we should expect.

‘Prince Charles, 71, is displaying mild symptoms “but otherwise remains in good health”, a (Clarence House) spokesman said, adding that the Duchess of Cornwall, 72, has been tested but does not have the virus.’

A Clarence House statement read: “In accordance with government and medical advice, the prince and the duchess are now self-isolating at home in Scotland.

“The tests were carried out by the NHS in Aberdeenshire, where they met the criteria required for testing.

“It is not possible to ascertain from whom the prince caught the virus owing to the high number of engagements he carried out in his public role during recent weeks.”

Charles and Camilla are now self-isolating at Balmoral. We pray for HRH as we pray for protection for all the Royal Family and Her Majesty’s Government. Once again, his experience demonstrates that for the overwhelming majority, Covid-19 carries mild symptoms. It also shows how widespread the virus is, reveals the limited extent of testing in the UK and shows that carrying on is really not that difficult. And now HRH will be immune.

Pray for Government

So pray for our leaders to find the wisdom and humility to row back on their shutdown and get the population back to work.

They have invested a lot in the original dire Imperial College predictions. It would be tempting for them to hope the predictions come true to justify the measures they have taken. However, I.C. have now downgraded them (Thursday 26th) and we can only pray this sparks the end of the lock-down.

It is beginning to look as if the field hospital in Excel Centre will never be used. That will be a cause for rejoicing, and yet, it cost taxpayers’ money to erect in the first place.

If the scare fizzles out, there could be some very upset people out there, outraged that the UK Government impoverished them for no reason at all.

We had better start praying against disorder, because the stability of society itself could be at risk.

Jer 29:7 And seek the peace of the city whither I have caused you to be carried away captives, and pray unto the LORD for it: for in the peace thereof shall ye have peace.

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  1. The NHS is massively underprepared for this pandemic: short of critical care beds, respirators and personal protective equipment. The requirement for this was eminently predictable, as pandemics are high on the Government’s list potential threats. But the Treasury has failed to fund them. There is no contingency capacity in the system. We are fighting a war with a peace time army. But we are where we are. The death statistics show we are precisely 2 weeks behind Italy. Italy’s death toll rose by 743 to 6,820 today, 25/3. But we have half the critical care beds of Italy. We are very shortly going to hit maximum capacity and hence effectively euthanasia by triage. While London is predicted to require twice as many beds, the South West will require six times as many. Self isolation of all but the most key workers is required now if we are to mitigate apocalyptic numbers of deaths. My grandmother died in the 1918 pandemic. I would prefer not to be a statistic in the one in 2020. Hence, with respect Stephen, I disagree with your conclusions. This is no mere scare.

    1. Oh, so you mean thousands of people are being impoverished, their jobs, businesses and health ruined, because the Gvt has failed to fund the NHS? But even then, how did the NHS cope with the thousands of excess winter illness cases during the last three months?

      1. “Oh, so you mean….” – Yes, that is what I mean, Stephen. The NHS was woefully unprepared, so the steps now being taken are having to be so intrusive. Effectively, we had not paid the insurance, and now the house is burning. A massive, false economy. But given the NHS is in this position, drastic action is required to save a great number of lives, but at enormous cost. Coronavirus is a load on the NHS on top of the normal winter surge of demand.

        1. I don’t see why the entire hospitality and service sectors have to be shut down just because there is extra demand on the NHS.
          Two years ago, from December to March, 47,400 excess winter deaths showed up at hospitals. The nation did not go into lock-down. We were not told to stay at home.
          This season’s winter surge is drawing to a close now, so the NHS must have, should have, capacity for a few hundred or even if you must a few thousand extra patients.
          Even Imperial College are now saying 20,000 maximum deaths and that the NHS has capacity. If it has not, do the volunteer scheme, buy in extra equipment and let the rest of us keep calm and carry on.
          I want to know if the Govt did any modelling on the economic and social effects of their anti-Covid-19 measures before they brought them in.

            • gadz
            • gadz on 26 March 2020 at 20:56

            Thank you Stephen.

          1. If lives don’t matter, why bother having an NHS at all? We are all going to die anyway, (unless of course, the Lord returns 1Th 4:16-17). Most of the dead would be old in any case, and economically unproductive. It would save the country a fortune, and empty the expensive care homes. The loss of excess population would have a beneficial impact on global warming…. “Are there no workhouses and prisons?”

            We would be back to “Unclean!” and “Bring out your dead!”. Numbers of COVID19 deaths, 759 to date and 181 in the last 24 hours, show a classic exponential J curve of acceleration. Social distancing is the only means of checking this without a vaccine, probably 18 months away, short of herd immunity and hundreds of thousands of deaths.

            Most of the dead are unregenerate, and destined for the lake of fire. Our Christian duty in love, love, is to protect and hence give them the opportunity to be saved before a premature death.

            1 Corinthians 13:1,7
            If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.

  2. We have to bear in mind we have a government that have shown but little fear of God. “God is not in all their thoughts”. The magicians in Egypt had, in the end, to acknowledge God. We are to expect them to look elsewhere. Floods. Coronavirus and now the economy.

    It was a David Sylvester about 7 years ago who was mocked when citing his beliefs about why the then floods were God’s judgement. Here we have had a far worse rollover and none of us knows how many rolls over will take place. It is living in the unknown.

  3. Thank you once again for a great article, that is really helpful in giving another viewpoint. I feel rather isolated in my opinion that this has been a colossal over reaction.
    I uploaded some comments before and my view has not changed; when the mainstream media goes hysterical, you know something is up, you know we are not being given the truth. Recent history is littered with examples of the UK media doing this. It is the simplest give away that we are being misled.
    There is and has been, no real debate, it is all one directional fear/hysteria, you must agree with the media/government, you must follow the crowd, you are not allowed to question, you are not allowed to think, you are not allowed to be different, you are not allowed to have an alternative viewpoint, intolerance of those who disagree is fine because it is right to persecute those who do not follow the crowd. Just like any dictatorship in other words.

    This is deadly for Christianity, because it needs complete freedom to explain its beliefs and because Christians hold, or are supposed to hold, different views to the non Christian world. We also need to be very careful about consuming the doom laden mainstream media narrative which will led to depression if you are not careful. The narrative seems to be ‘You are all doomed – only the media and government can save you’. Actually, only God and his Son Jesus Christ can save us and I hope somewhere the church is saying this.

    I looked up the mortality totals for other diseases and was amazed at how high they were just for one day. The covid19 death toll for the UK is nothing like the total expected for cancers or sepsis per day. No one suggests shutting down virtually an entire economy for these. I appreciate that the problem is the infectiousness of the virus but as Christian Voice points out, the predictions are based on models, these are full of assumptions, the assumptions are just that – assumptions. Again, notice the power of the media to spin you in the wrong direction; see the power it has to simply run a narrative, to persuade us by simply stressing words, emphasising negatives, and most of all – never, ever allowing a contrary opinion. The test and best example for this is the evolution hoax. Who dares contradict it? Who dares to go counter to the narrative? To say out loud that you do not accept billions of years, molecules to mankind evolution, is to invite gasps and ridicule, even amongst Christians. I have actually had a church leader, with pain in his voice, more in sadness than in anger, try to persuade me to stop believing in Genesis six day creation.

    I also have a few questions; Once we all come out of our imprisonment, will this virus have gone away? I assume it will still be around, so what then, do we go back into isolation?
    If the hospitals are in danger of being overwhelmed then why were we so unprepared, why can the government not build emergency hospitals like in China? Why can’t money be diverted from HST, which by all accounts is going to be the most expensive railway line on planet earth? Why are we spending money bombing Syria and gearing up for a war against Iran? We need to stop bombing Syria and use the money saved to treat the sick here.
    China and Russia are donating respirators and medical supplies to Italy, We could ask them for help but unfortunately the conservative governments have been busy attacking them with sanctions and other insults, so we are now suffering because of our government’s hostility towards these countries. UK citizens should be angry that their loved ones could have been helped but are in danger because of this appalling and evil foreign policy.

    What happens when the next pandemic comes around? Do we go into lockdown again? Will the government nationalise most of the economy again? The absurdity of what has happened is hard to get to grips with. As I understand it, the bailout/nationalisation of almost everything will be funded by borrowing or money printing, at least initially. I understand that the government will ask the central bank, the Bank of England to do quantitative easing. This is a technical way of saying print money. When they do this, the trillions printed are charged against all of us as a loan ie it is a debt. This debt has interest on it, that I understand is compound interest (I view compound interest as usury). The national debt has just exploded and this is the real virus that the media and government will not talk about and we will be paying for it in some way. Once a nation is stuck in debt it is very difficult to get out and whoever is the creditor, controls the debtor.

    This looks like the end of the West. We have provoked God so many times during my lifetime that we are now approaching the end game. It is possible that the can of national debt will be kicked down the road again and we may get away with a few more years but this is very near to the end. I don’t think we should give up, and we should pray but I will be starting by praying for wisdom as to how even to begin. As a start I will be praying for wisdom, how we survive practically, as well as for God to release us from this terrible curse of lies over truth, and for relief from the virus.

    1. Thanks brother, good to have that input.

  4. Sorry Stephen, this article is disrespectful in places towards people you disagree with. It is also imotive in some of it’s language & phrases. It is also biased & one sided, concentrating on your own agenda, just like you did on the Skripal case which now shows it was NOT a British plot but a Russian assassination.
    Some of your comments are even mischievous, where you conclude people dying from pneumonia caused by Covid-19 was “convenient” as if it was propaganda. If the pneumonia was caused by the Covid-19, then it is highly relevant to identify this as any Coroner would require.
    Your final concluding remark “Are they hoping that the dire Imperial College predictions come true & the field hospital in Excel center is full to overflowing”? is frankly disgraceful. It is you who needs to repent & put this right, otherwise I cannot (and will not) continue to support you in your so called ministry, Yours sincerely in our precious Lord Jesus, David Woolley.

    1. I’m not sure what terrible sin I have committed? Would you please kindly outline it for me? And where is the disrespect, as opposed to suspicions of those in power? As the prophet says, as respectfully as he can:

      Micah 2:2 And they covet fields, and take them by violence; and houses, and take them away: so they oppress a man and his house, even a man and his heritage.

      On the Skripal case, no, brother, as Rob Slane of Salisbury points out, two years on, the official UK line that ‘it woz the Russkies wot dun it’ is shot through with more holes than a thing with lots of holes shot through it. Please read his analysis: The Salisbury Poisonings Two Years On: A Riddle, Wrapped in a Cover Up, Inside a Hoax.
      You talk about coroners. Are you aware that jury trials are now banned for Covid-19 cases but mandated for every other infectious disease? That’s disturbing.

      What is actually wrong with concluding the UK authorities are not levelling with us, and want their dire predictions to come true now they have invested so much political capital in them? Are you suggesting they are without sin?

      1John 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

      True for me as well, it’s just that I cannot see what I have done wrong here. And what I find so very sad is you cannot even thank me for the rest of the article, even for the tiniest part of it, for example for questioning those in power, calling for prayer, warning of an economic melt-down, or for posting the video of Dr Bhakdi, which I am sure you have viewed and found as disturbing as I did…

  5. All good points. There has been an over reaction. All our meetings have been closed down. My evangelism has been closed down plus allsorts of shops, sports centres, tennis courts, swimming pools etc. etc.. As you say the annual flu epidemic figures are way way above Covid 19 yet we are making a massive fuss which seems like a blip compared to the flu figures. It will take us decades to get back our economy. By all means look after those who are vulnerable but there is another 80% who should be running the country. One cannot help suspecting that this control will not completely disappear when this virus is over. It seems very insidious to me and all based on an excuse to help the aged. We can but pray. If God can deliver Brexit He can certainly deliver us from this extreme control that shuts all the churches down and denies people their right to earn a living etc. etc. etc..

  6. Looking at the worse scenario. As there is no known remedy for this coronavirus and predictions say this will be several months away, then answer this question:

    If we have 68 million people and statistics calculate that a minimum of 2%, let alone a possible 4% of them dying within 12 months through this virus this would amount to between 1.36 million to 2.72 million UK deaths (3700 to 7400 per day) then how just inform me how we would manage and is the government that silly in not taking measure now?

    Then, in addition, we have natural deaths of 1500 per day on top. India has just said no one is to leave their home or to go out of their door. Severe measures where there is no known remedy.

    1. It is not correct to spend taxpayers money and shut down people’s livings on the ‘worst’ scenario. They should instead look at a reasonable scenario. Death rates are nowhere near what you say, because all you have done is taken the deaths and divided tghem by the official figures for those testing positive, and not included all those who have been exposed to the virus and either not fallen ill at all, or had mild symptoms which they have recovered from at home.

      1. I see your point and I looked upon our PM as saying he will review in three weeks was to be his strategy was like every good business person to stop and take stock now then adjust according to the situation was a prudent measure. The thing is new and unknown and actuary folk have no past statistics to work on. My assumptions looked very rather frightening based of 2% deaths and could be miles out and I hope so. I think an initial clampdown, then a review in three weeks would have been my approach bearing in mind we are also waiting for more prompt testing facilities. Only yesterday a young man with Crohn’s in his thirties receives an NHS letter (no doubt being one of many other people) to say he must not leave his premises for 3 months.

  7. Stephen, I could give you a long list, but if you can’t see the points I’ve already made it would be a waste of time. As usual you’re being very selective ignoring the points that don’t suit, particularly the last one on the field hospital at Excel.
    There have already been 2 reports the last 2 days on increasing numbers of young people being admitted to hospitals requiring intensive care & fighting for their lives. BUT YOU ADVOCATE THEM MIXING & CATCHING THE VIRUS TO BUILD UP IMMUNITY! The height of irresponsibility which you should certainly repent of & put right, particularly in your high profile position of influence. “From him to much is given, much will be required”!

    1. There is no need to shout. Christian people should be courteous even when they disagree.

      1. So “Oh, so you mean… ” is a courteous way of disagreeing with your supporters?

        Matthew 7:3 (KJV )
        And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

        Matthew 18:4 (KJV)
        Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven.

        Please accept that people can honestly disagree with you, based on the evidence.

        1. Not a problem. Courteous disagreement is fine. But the ‘Oh so you mean’ was a way of agreeing the NHS has been underfunded, at least compared with say, Japan and Germany, but also to draw attention to the scale of the over-reaction. If it’s an NHS problem, let’s deal with it. But putting the whole population under house-arrest in case those at real risk get infected is, as that learned professor said, ‘grotesque, absurd and very dangerous’ to the economy and wider public health.
          I’m not sure what you mean by the mote and beam quote. I cannot see I have been guilty of hypocrisy.
          As to humility, I’m proud to say no-one can teach me anything on that subject.

          1. I appreciate the self-deprecating irony of your last point, well said.
            It is readily apparent from the context of the mote and beam verse, that my point is those who rebuke the discourteous should first examine themselves in that regard. But of course, “If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us.”. There is naturally much passion in this debate, given what is at stake.

  8. I think it is reasonable for people to wonder if this is in the remit of an organisation founded to promote the Christian faith.

    1. Why would anyone think standing up for righteousness is not a Christian duty?

      1. It seems to me that there is a disagreement here whether you are in fact standing up for righteousness or not. I don’t question your motives, but I don’t know whether you are right or not. It might be good to see epidemiological experts with sincerely-held but conflicting views face each other in open debate. We might get some idea what the truth is. Meanwhile, see also eureferendum.com where Richard North, a former public health inspector, discusses the government’s response to the epidemic. He is not an establishment figure, as shown by his visceral hatred of Boris Johnson.
        I still don’t see what this has to do with the Christian Gospel.
        One of our friends in Kenya reports that his students are very much unconcerned by the pandemic. He speculates that it is because they live with dangerous disease in the community all the time, namely malaria. But our society has no psychological immunity of that kind.

        1. There are some horrendous measures in Kenya right now, market traders being tear-gassed by police just for trying to earn a living. Just like here, people have a God-given right to work and feed their families. Governments which take that away are oppressing people in their wages, which the prophets denounced. And so must we, IMHO.

            • jsampson45
            • John S on 30 March 2020 at 11:41

            God does not give rights. Before Him, we have no rights.
            Richard North writes today regarding Sucharit Bhakdi in whom you put so much faith. What he says about Peter Hitchens could apply to you:-
            “Referring to the response to the epidemic as the ‘Great Panic’, Hitchens seems to rely on the views of Sucharit Bhakdi, a Germany-based medical microbiologist, who dismisses what he calls the ‘extreme preventive measures’ as ‘grotesque, absurd and very dangerous’.
            “Strangely, this man – while recognising the epidemic in Italy – attributes the high death rate to ‘exceptional external factors’ such as air pollution, compounded by the multi-generational nature of many Italian families. He thus posits that ‘scenarios like those in Italy or Spain’ are not ‘realistic’ in Germany – an exception which Hitchens takes to apply to the UK [where nurses are now having to wear bin bags to protect themselves – JRS].
            “Hitchens is anxious to talk up the credentials, referring to the professor ‘as one of the most highly cited medical research scientists in Germany’, who was ‘head of the Institute for Medical Microbiology at the Johannes Gutenberg University of Mainz, one of Germany’s most distinguished seats of learning’.
            “This is a classic resort to prestige, amounting to an appeal to authority, but one should note that Bhakdi has no record of any work in the field of epidemiology, and it is very much the case that ‘medical microbiology’ is not a qualification in that very different field.
            “A balanced view might take account of the doubts about Bhakdi’s assertions but, armed with his ‘expert’ Hitchens evidently feels equipped to challenge the entire global medical and scientific establishment.”

            • Stephen on 30 March 2020 at 12:32

            It’s not just Dr Bhakdi. Off-guardian has 21 other medical experts saying the panic is irrational. And now we are learning from Iceland, where there is no lockdown, but massive testing, revealing half of all who tested positive have no symptoms. Apart from a few in hospital, says Thorolfur Guðnason, Iceland’s chief epidemiologist, “The other half displays very moderate cold-like symptoms.” On this occasion, Richard North is wrong.

            • Stephen on 30 March 2020 at 16:53

            ‘God does not give rights. Before Him, we have no rights.’ We can ponder the second sentence. I read:
            Heb 10:19 Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus,
            By the Grace of God, yes, but it appears believing in the name and the blood of Jesus gives me the right to enter into the holiest. If I am not very much mistaken.
            However, even if the second sentence is true, it does not lead to the truth of the first. Because when I spoke of ‘rights’ I meant rights before men, not before God.
            When we read:
            Ezek 16:49 Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy.
            The implication is that the poor have a right to have their hand strengthened. That is not a right which God owes them, but a right owed them by those God has set in power over them.
            The right to life, to own property, to work and earn and provide for one’s family, the classic understanding is these are all rights given by God which rulers must honour.

  9. You make a number of very valid points.
    What we really need to see is the excess deaths figures over the previous year
    December 2019 as against December 2018
    January 2020 as against January 2019
    February 2020 as against February 2019

    How can we look for appropriate action from a government which is prepared to shut down churches for an indefinite period? A course of action so evil that it would be necessary to go back to the 17th Century to find any such action. And yet so many so-called “Preachers of the Gospel” complied even when the status of the demand was technically that of “advice”.

  10. Looking at these articles, and other comments, I am not encouraged to abandon my scepticism regarding this whole virus panic. Accused of being a conspiracy theorist (which \I am not) I would suggest that this is a diabolical political manipulation to deprive the population (either national and/or international) of any semblance of civil liberties that we have left, after the looney left garbage of our political activists have conspired to deprive us of conscience freedoms (Equality trumps religious conscience principle). Democracy has now become a sham, and ruthless political schemers have a field day justifying their smash and grab of our ‘rights’ to assembly, etc by manufacturing a virus that has been deliberately introduced (by the Chinese?) for this manipulative purpose. How abominably stupid are we?

  11. “P.S. (Thursday AM). In addition, Neil Ferguson at Imperial College has now downgraded his advice. It won’t be 250,000 deaths, it will 20,000 in the worst case or ‘substantially lower.’ Hospitals are right now ‘within capacity’ to cope. ”

    This really is a quite extraordinary climb down, or row-back!
    Trusting ‘the science’ always comes with the problem of the so-called ‘science’ actually being simply the opinion of one or more scientists.

    We see this also – all the time – with climate change. As I wrote, in a recent article:
    “Is anthropogenic global warming a stark reality and an existential crisis threatening the destruction of our planet? Or is it a carefully-constructed pseudo-scientific myth?
    “For myself, I am extremely suspicious of the catastrophist arguments bandied about by just about everyone these days and very disturbed about the vast volume of ill-informed and ill-considered opinions, particularly those which opine that there “will” be more droughts, more floods, more storms, more heat, more cold … or whatever, if we don’t move to so-called ‘net zero’ so-called ‘carbon’ emissions as quickly as possible.
    “The only way to approach this subject is to look at original research oneself, including – for example – UK multi-decadal rainfall records. We cannot, and must not, trust the opinions of a newsreader, journalist, TV presenter, environmental activist or schoolgirl unless we have ourselves verified the accuracy of their apocalyptic arguments. ”

    It’s that ‘will’ which always gets my goat and nearly always combined with an ‘up to’ or ‘could’, as you highlighted.

    If people talking about Coronavirus or climate change possess the ability to predict the future, perhaps they could instead stop bothering us and content themselves with something personally lucrative, for example predicting the winner of the Grand National? Then they would be making so much money that they wouldn’t need to pose as scientists or doctors who only ever reference ‘peer reviewed papers’ or ‘the evidence’!

    As Albert Einstein wrote in 1901, in a letter to a friend: “A foolish faith in authority is the worst enemy of truth.”

    1. It’s when the government and the media collude in the story, when the BBC, ITV and Sky become mere propaganda mouth-pieces of those in charge, that the alarm bells always ring for me. Someone brought up the Skripal saga. It’s the same there. Syria, ‘Assad-must-go’. Same there.
      Actually, on the last two, one could rely on RT as well as Off-Guardian. Rob Slane’s Blogmire, Craig Murray, etc, (and I hope ourselves) to put a different point of view. This time, because the authorities in Russia are bringing in similar but not quite so draconian measures as the West, RT has decided not to ‘question more’ about the economic effects of lock-downs etc. hey ho!
      BTW, What’s the betting by the time Dyson have their ventilators made and tested, there will be no need for them?

      1. Indeed so, on all your points!
        Of course, ref Russia, Mr Putin has a considerable vested interest in presenting himself as the decisive leader protecting his people.

  12. What do you think about this message Stephen?

    He seems to show it is more of a conspiracy. Kind of convincing but not sure.

    1. Well he is right an economic crash is coming out of it and surely right that governments like to control and manipulate their citizens, but while I acknowledge the kings of the earth take counsel together against the Lord and against his anointed, we should never underestimate (a) their ability to engineer a complete cock-up when it was far easier to get it right and/or (b) something unforeseen happening which turns them into gibbering idiots.
      That’s another couple of reasons why they so need our prayer and our witness that there is one higher than they.

      1. Thank you David.

      2. Sorry I mean Stephen. Got this other fellow on the brain.

  13. As governments are put in place by God and we are callled to submit to them (Romans 13) we should be looking to see what God is doing through all of this.

    In my understanding, He has orchestrated it and He has His purposes in shaking the earth in this devastating way right now. Thinking about our own country, surely I am not alone in believing that, God is dealing with us in a specific way and He will let this go on for as long as He chooses.

    We can pray that people will turn to Him in large numbers, that He will purify the church and enable us to grow in depth and maturity, that we will be able to reverse some of the terrible laws that have come about on our watch (especially the older ones among us) that the terrible child education plans on transgender etc. will come to nothing., that abotion will be seen for what it is.

    That is my desire and I would b prepared to say “Whatever it takes Lord.”

    Even if those things only happen in measure and the love of many continues to grow cold as we have been told it will at some point, if some can be transformed because of this hand of judgement apon us, it will have been worth it.

  14. Bro Stephen, my view regarding people like Woolley, is that you don’t need to argue or even try to defend your God-given stand. You have written the article back-up with the Holy word of God, that’s what that matter. A simple reply like “Thank you for the points raised, as disagreement; may the Holy Spirit continues to enlighten us, God bless you richly, my brother Wooley.”

    1. Thank you for your support, dear brother.

  15. RT News is reporting that so far, after six months of corona virus approximately 22,000 people have died of this virus (assuming the deaths are actually caused by it). That is out of a total world population of about 7.7 billion people. Of those who have contracted the disease, that is roughly 500,000, 122,000 have recovered, that is they fell ill with the virus and then recovered.

    So out of a world population of 7.7 billion, only 22,000 have died of corona virus. This hardly amounts to a demic, let alone a pandemic. Apart from that, approximately five times as many survived as died, you have a one of five chance (or thereabouts) chance of recovering. This is incredible, why on earth are we not being told this?

    The media and government response is a massive over reaction and hysteria which we must not join in with or be scared by. I am actively ignoring the mainstream media to preserve my own mental health. It is a disgrace that we are treated this way and a horrible indictment of the way a godless society has degenerated. We need to be asking why the media refuses point blank to question anything, why it refuses to have any kind of balance and why is it not reporting the recoveries to the same level as their doom mongering, “We’re all gonna die”, news reporting mantra. As I wrote before, the media is a business for making money, doom sells media, doom makes you money. The media also tries to control through hysterias and doom mongering. This is a great opportunity to offer the hope of turning back to God, the only problem is we are effectively in prison in our homes at the moment thanks to the over reaction to this.

    The fear mongering is all based on modelling, and thank you Christian Voice for so bravely and brilliantly pointing this out. They are models and models are not reality, they are built on assumptions. If you programme the model to produce dire results it will do that for you. What is disgraceful is that we have a government that does this although I suspect that it has been told to do this by the financial powers that are really in control of our debt soaked country. The out of control debt and the anti-God attitudes is the real virus.

    We need to try to work out what is the hidden agenda here. It looks as if it is take away freedom, certainly freedom of movement, freedom of association and freedom to protest against things like the evil RSE agenda. Also evangelism, which like the contributor above, I am now prevented from doing. How convenient for the forces of darkness that a government has shut it all down, along with the church of course which is no longer able to have its once per week act of divine worship. Worship over the internet is no substitute for, live, relational, congregational worship.

    I have a relative who has just been made redundant as a result of the hysterical over reaction to the virus and another person who has been told that they must accept a pay cut. These are the real victims which I doubt the media will report on. They need our prayers too.

    The next contagion is the financial one. The crazy amounts of money that the government is now printing to bail out the economy could cause hyper inflation. My concern is that the elites will use the coming economic chaos to do things like a bail in. That is when the banks take our money from our bank accounts. If you have any, the only way to stop this is to give it away before the banks take it, Jesus recommended this, or put it into things that the banks and government will find difficult to take away from us.

    This is the shaking that many prophetic Christians have been warning about for years and is a result of this nation tragically rejecting the God of the Bible and his codes for living and having the best, most fair and successful society. When your society, through bad teaching and anti-God governments trashes God’s codes for living you get this. We have to enter into a huge repentance and crying out to God to save us. Church leaders should be leading the way but as the church has been effectively shut down, apart from online messaging, this is difficult. We cannot have any gatherings because they have been banned. What a shame there were not more of them when we had the chance to meet. Now we have lost that freedom. What a good job I went out and did my little bit of street witnessing when I did, I cannot do that now. How amazing that God pushed me to do that.

    The economic contagion is next and we need to prepare and pray into this. Expect a massive amount of media lying but no amount of hysteria and brainwashing will be able to stop the reality when we have a currency crisis. There may well be a lot coming round the corner, it is just possible that our government will be forced to cry out to God.

    1. I agree, but would add some further evil that should be shockingly, alarming us, but is just accepted as the norm in most “Christians”, within the WORLD system.
      1. We export ungodly sexuality to to third world countries with financial “aid” as part of the conditions we offer. Together with the pushing the murdering of innocence by abortion in the same way

      God Bless those nations who have resisted .

      2. But I predicted calamity when our late Prime Minister David Cameron made it his personal choice and decision to act directly and oppose God’s Law on marriage. Then it was compounded by the Queens assent, which broke her coronation oath big time. The Transgender issue has been stopped in its tracks, because we have no lessons in our schools until further notice.
      God will not be mocked but His Love requires our personal and national repentance

  16. Thank you for your views on this Stephen. We are in lock down here in NZ and being ruled by a God ridiculing government of the extreme left variety. My view is we are being lied to. Example “these measures are to save lives”. In the midst of the “pandemic” an extreme pro abortion bill was passed into law just before parliament stopped sitting. If this is then an example of “saving lives” then we are all in trouble.

  17. Here are some simulations for you.


    Simulations cut out the guesswork, which as you will see, it is often very difficult to guess. It’s a non-linear system – small changes can make big differences to the outcomes.

    Another tip: get loads of sleep as it improves the immune system.


  18. Following my post of 26.3.20, 22.27, that should have been we have a five to one chance of recovering. The figures being broadcast today by RT, still supports these basic numbers. I notice that unfortunately even RT has been sucked into the ‘We’re all doomed’ narrative. I have now switched off mainstream media in order to reject the curse of destruction that the controlled media are trying to put over me.

    Moving on from the hysteria, it is good to analyse what this says about our society. We have become a society that is easily scared of things like illnesses because of a well meaning health and safety culture which has been taken out of control. It is a cancelation culture where any thing that the crowd, driven or jumped onto by the media, dislikes, has to be cancelled. There is no debate because the media has demanded that there can be no debate, so there is none of that and therefore no balance. The lack of debate comes as a result of the rejection of Christianity in Britain. Once you eject the Christian faith from a society you remove the ability to have freedom. It is only when the Christian faith based on the Word, is given respect and allowed to flourish that you end up with freedom. Take it away and persecute its followers, and unfortunately you lose it, which explains what is going in now.
    People are also scared of death, which would explain why there seems to have been so little protest at our virtual imprisonment. When I go to church, I mean when I could actually go to church before my freedom was removed, I always noted how often the afterlife was mentioned. In the last 20 years it has been almost nil. Church now concentrates on the here and now, the material world we are in, with stories about what you can achieve materially with faith, the pagan olympics, apparently a wonderful example for Christians and many other stories, but all are based very much in this life here. There is virtually no reference to heaven or hell. The problem is that when the church and TV ministries, stop teaching properly, we get a society like we have now.

    Jeremiah said, ‘Is there no balm (healing ) in Gilead’ Jer 8:22. He was asking, ‘Is there no one who knows how to heal, or can get us some from God? I hope we will hear many Christians messaging and offering the healing power of the Holy Spirit and not hiding this great gift.

    We have an opportunity now to readdress that failure by pointing out to people that this is not all there is and that there is God who created us, just as Genesis says, loves us, knows our suffering because His Son suffered and if we opt into the salvation of Jesus Christ, we do not need to fear death. Maybe God is preparing the ground for this true message to be given out. Once we have started on that we will then have to start offering a message of justice and economics amidst the economic chaos that we are now heading into.
    Every blessing everyone.

  19. I have a link here to public review of the Oxford paper.

    It has not been peer reviewed for an academic journal and there are many mistakes in it, including mathematical errors and general bad curve fitting practices.

    Just because it is from Oxford does not mean it is good. The press have too much faith in the argumentum ab auctoritate!

  20. God is bringing the nation to its knees
    This is such an incredible time to be living through that we have to continually stop and discern to try to understand developments as new points continually surface.
    Do you think that there is a big difference between the way the older and younger generations see things with the virus? The younger generations are generally in favour of the shutdowns, lock downs, suspensions of freedoms, authoritarian state actions together with huge amounts of printed money/bailouts/borrowings/huge national debt and job losses, damage to the economy, whereas older generation people are much more relaxed about going about as normal despite the health risks, especially to older generation citizens, and more against shutdowns, money printing, destruction of personal freedoms etc. It looks as if the response is as much a generational divide as anything else. Talk to younger people and they are horrified that anyone should be going out of the house, except possibly to exercise because it is selfish to risk spreading the flu virus. Older generations tend to have a ‘Keep Calm and Carry On’ approach. Keep calm and carry on has now pretty well died; along with freedom, it is another casualty of this flu virus.
    Older generations may also remember the Spanish flu that struck in 1918 and experienced it by being closer in time to it. Maybe they assume there is not much mankind can do, which younger people will say is wrong because there is something we can do. Older generations might also be more aware of the dangers of hyper inflation caused by uncontrolled money printing because they were nearer to it when it broke out in Weimar Germany after WW1 and after the Great Depression. This may be driving the response of the government and hysterical media, in which case younger generation, it looks like you have won. So congratulations but I am not convinced it was all right and the financial virus that is coming round the corner looks bad and you will notice the media is not talking about in any depth.

    A Baptist minster said to me, ‘God is bringing the nation to its knees’. No matter what our view on responses, this looks like God allowing something to shake the nation to bring it back to its senses and to reconsider God. The UK has been in rebellion against God for most of my life and this is another day of reckoning. Unfortunately because we have driven God out of so much of our national life, we are horribly exposed. This is why all nations should keep close to God, put God’s codes of conduct and morality into law, and fight like anything against the forces of satan that want to destroy them. We should have fought much harder to keep all those Godly laws, a lot are gone now and there are not enough Christians who understand this need to fight to preserve God’s codes of conduct.

    The RSE agenda is just another sad example of destruction, this time aimed at children, the most vulnerable in society. The government will probably use the flu hysteria to push through the final RSE catastrophe, and remember, we are banned from holding public meetings ‘gatherings’ to protest or pray, how convenient.

    ‘How lonely sits the city that was once full of people! How like the widow has she become..’ Lam1:1
    ‘And I will silence in the cities of Judah and Jerusalem, the voice of mirth and the voice of gladness, the voice of the bridegroom and the voice of the bride, for the land shall become a waste.’ Jer 7:34.
    ‘Before your eyes I will bring an end to the sounds of joy and gladness and to the voices of bride and bridegroom in this place.’ Jer 16:9.

    Normal life in Britain and around the West has come to a halt. All the freedoms we took for granted are now being threatened, with a media that has lost any sense of rational analysis and is now just reduced to hysterical doom reporting. The good news is that with this flu hysteria at least the global warming hysteria, the carbon hysteria, the rising sea levels hysteria, the Russia hysteria, the plastic hysteria, the anti meat hysteria, the ‘You’re all doomed, there is no future, we’re all gonna die, end of life on planet earth, there is no God, blah, blah, blah’, hysteria, at least these have been shelved for the time being while the mainstream media concentrates on the current hysteria of choice – the flu. Our grandparents lived through worse, and they survived, so will we.

    Someone really ought to tell the mainstream media about God.

    Save the children – Stop RSE

    1. Agreed on RSE, and lack of ability to protest. The generation divide you mention is weird. Are younger people totally sold into the ‘risk-averse’ mentality linked in the story? Some younger people please tell us! Harrowing scriptures.

    2. Denning: It is not only Britain that is brought to its knees; not only the West that life has come to a halt. India (approx. one fifth of the world’s population) is in lockdown, as are many other countries around the world. This is truly a global pandemic. God is shaking the nations (plural). We cannot deny the seriousness of the Coronavirus. The challenge is how to deal with it effectively. Above all, we as God’s people should be seeking the Lord earnestly in these days, for we are surely in the last days before the return of Christ.

      1. May I suggest it is not the coronavirus but the panicky reactions to it which are serious.

  21. Protect the NHS. DIY Abortions (A friend sent me these woeful concerns)

    How should we view the decision to introduce DIY home abortions? A dangerous and most significant change to the provision of Abortion since 1967, to happen without any Parliamentary scrutiny or public consultation.

    Could not removal of any direct medical supervision overseeing the use of both abortion pills could see a rise of complications experienced by women, thus putting more strain on our NHS ?

    Under the new temporary policy, doctors will be able to prescribe abortion pills (mifepristone and misoprostol) over the phone or video (e.g. Facetime or Skype) and then women will perform their own abortion at home, by taking both abortion pills, meaning they will be left to deliver their dead unborn child at home without direct medical supervision and who are the instigators – the abortion lobby taking advantage of this crisis.

    The Government has indicated that the designated location for the abortion will be the home, what is there to stop both abortion pills being taken at other locations such as schools. Where are the safeguards without the
    support of medical staff and especially the threat to vulnerable girls at risk from sex-trafficking or child-sex abuse, as a means to more easily cover up these abhorrent crimes.

    What a dangerous decision they have made to introduce DIY home abortions to the UK.

    1. Churches are closed. But abortion clinics stay open. Because they are ‘essential’. And now DIY abortions … You are right. What evil.

      1. Ah Stephen, have you seen these petitions? Can you help out? Please take 30-seconds to ask your MP to revoke the DIY abortion decision: https://righttolife.org.uk/stopDIYabortions.

        Then this one on the rushed through Coronavirus bill that is giving the government unprecedented forces of power and us no rights to be safely protected. http://chng.it/NkfXC2cN

  22. Forgive me that this is a little long, but the following is from a Christian pastor in the Andaman Islands which is a Union Territory of India (one of the remotest groups of islands in the world) :-
    “In the Andaman the administration has imposed extra restrictions by not allowing any grocery, pharmacy, bakery and
    fruits & vegetable shops to function, and even the petrol bunks were shut. It was a complete shutdown and all movements like inter-Island boat services and local transports as well as private movements
    were strictly prohibited. From 24th up to 29th March the local administration was planning to distribute the essential goods as home delivery but failed miserably in doing so. There was not even a supply of drinking water for four days. But after the intervention of the high court, the strict
    shutdown of the mentioned essentials services was lifted up. Now we are able to go out and get our essentials items from the shops. Today was the first day we got vegetables since the lockdown. Yesterday, we could purchase some ration items and here everything is very limited since the flight and ship services from the mainland has been terminated. It all resumed from today as special cargo flight was arranged to bring in the necessary goods from the mainland. We are completely dependent for all essentials goods from mainland. Now they are supplying the medical equipment as well. We have heard that a cargo ship will leave from Chennai port on the 2nd of April. There is no fruit available in the market even to get the local fruit and vegetable there is no transportation to bring them to the market from different corners of the Islands. By the grace of God, we had sufficient ration at home to survive for a week (22th to 29th) and exactly
    when it was needed the things started to fall in place… ”
    In my reply I wrote:
    “I hope and pray that they will relax the lockdown soon in UK and India, and many other countries, otherwise the cure will be worse than the disease. The Covid-19 coronavirus mainly kills the elderly and people with underlying health issues. The world is using a sledgehammer to crack a nut. There seems little wisdom among the world’s experts.”
    Whilst I do support the need for measures to protect the vulnerable and to “flatten the curve”, from the growing accumulation of evidence it would seem to me that the priority in the UK should now be to 1) relax the restrictions on the general public so that people can return to work and businesses can function again; 2) identify people who are most at risk from the Coronavirus (the elderly and those with specific underlying health issues) so that they can self isolate; 3) roll out testing on a massive scale so that a more precise mapping of where the infection is dominant can be ascertained (fires are fought where the fire is raging, not indiscriminately). With urgent and appropriate measures it would seem to me as a non-expert that the lockdown should then be lifted so that the country can get back to normality.
    Paul Barnes

    1. Spot on, brother.

  23. The way this is happening makes me think God is fully in control as Christians believe he is always. In the last few years we have seen a moral landscape that is where the West continued to degrade and China was really making an effort to do good things. For example in 2017 World Economic Forum I watched their president talk about how China must help the third world, bring them out of poverty, fight protectionism in markets (i.e. cheating) and bring wealth to the many rather than the few. He had a kind of twinkle in his eye where you knew he was for real, not some faker. I also heard that China is actually the largest Christian population on the earth. Even if they are not individually thinking of themselves as such they do seems to practice many of the cherished values.

    Meanwhile over on the other side of the world has been Trump, the populist who started a trade war with China and used his muscle to wrestle with a country that was trying t bring peace and cooperation. The war was unfair and America lost it. This was just before the outbreak started. China suffered some death, but its value placed on human life was such that they did all they could. If Britain had done what they did we would only have had 157 deaths in total. Trump is on record as saying don’t worry it is just like the flu. I predict America is going to see scenes of biblical proportion and they can’t do anything to stop at the minimum 100s of thousands of deaths. There’s a warship where it is wiping them out like flies. Our prime minister and heath secretary got it.

    Looking at all of this and how it unfolds, I do not believe it is all random bad or good luck. I see it as pride and greed leading to death. It is exactly what the bible says. Pride goes before destruction. This is destruction and our country is on the hit-list. You see our officials said our NHS and bioscience is the best in the world. Trump is now saying it is not the flu, and god only knows what will happen next, but for us, we all need to remember the teachings of the bible. If we had followed it I believe we will be alright, but it is hairy times. Justice is being done. It seems rational that China will gain significantly greater global power and influence. There’s so much American public hate directed at them though. I see it consistently across social media and in the popular press over there.

    1. Andrew, it remains that the lockdown will cause many more deaths from suicide, poorer health outcomes, and so on, in the long run. In the USA, possibly millions, Off-Guardian is predicting. The people who were going to die sadly would have done, but smarter isolation together with whole-population testing would have prevented it escalating. Meanwhile, people would have kept their jobs and businesses and the economy could have ticked along. God is fully in control in the sense that he has set up societal structures but, for example, he does not control a parliament which legalises abortion. That is done in rebellion from God.

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