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  1. Fascinating article! I am wondering about the wisdom of suggesting somewhat glibly that this is in The Lord’s will. It maybe. Yes, there is a plumb line against Ezekiel 27 and comments on Tyre. I am sceptical, however, of a too close connection here with Tarshish and the UK. Much more to the point is that, as a nation, we will suffer considerable disruption to our anticipated life style, and this will increase the sense of insecurity that many of us are increasingly feeling. As a nation, we are far too tolerant of evil, failing to call it exactly what it is, and agender like LGBT and transgender promotion IS thoroughly evil. That we are entering into an uncertain future in the short term is without doubt. We have some evil people in Parliament (not just ‘bad’ but thoroughly evil) who are generating all kinds of evil in the nation, ably supported by their party political activists, especially of the left of the political spectrum. Given the utter poverty of church leadership at this time within the UK, I am sceptical as to whether we, as a nation will genuinely repent, which we need to do if we are to recover.

    1. A very good point here. It is very difficult to know what is the Lord’s will and what isn’t, unless you take the view that everything is the Lord’s will (which seems reasonable, as he is capable of anything — why should he allow things to go wrong ?)

      Michael, you are confusing your agenda with your gender.

  2. Through the curtain that was torn at the death of Jesus, Father Yehovah, together with Stephen and every person praying for Your intervention regarding Brexit Bill, I come into Your Court in heaven, as You have invited us to bring our arguments before You through Your Prophet Isaiah. We agree with our adversary that we, our fathers, our land have sinned against You. But according to 2 Chronicles 7: 13-16, we ask You to wash our sins with the blood of Yeshua, our Saviour and cleanse our land, especially Britain of the sins weighing on it. We bind the minds of the leaders of Britain to the mind of Christ, their wills to the will of Christ and we ask of You to release Your blood into them, uproot all thoughts & reasonings that stand against Your will concerning the issue; instead plant in them Your will, wisdom, instructions & strategies. Besides that, we ask You to appoint Your heavenly hosts in their millions to arrest all the demonic in all nations -in the heavens, in the earth and under the earth, in all 3 dimensions- so that, all power working against Your will for planet earth at this hour are nullified & defeated, and that Your holy will concerning the matter is promoted, executed & established.

    1. This is very dramatic, but is it really going to change Father Yehovah’s mind (assuming that he reads it) ?

      For example, elsymatt asks Him to uproot all thoughts that stand against His will, but wouldn’t he do that anyway (if he wanted to) ?

      1. One has tried to explain before that the Lord delights to involve us in what he does. Wesley said ‘God does nothing but in answer to prayer.’ That might overstate, but it gets the idea across. The Lord hears our prayers:
        Psalm 34:17 The righteous cry, and the LORD heareth, and delivereth them out of all their troubles.
        Prov 15:29 The LORD is far from the wicked: but he heareth the prayer of the righteous.
        Jas 5:16b The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much. (All KJV)

  3. Government departments have been planning for a ‘No Deal’ for a long time. Mr Donaldson is a respectable godly man who is worth listening to.

  4. Thanks for the article, Stephen.
    Looking at the Brexit flow charts in the media for parliamentary procedures of various scenarios reminds me of the snakes and ladders board game. It takes effort to climb the ladder but it’s a quick trip down the snake. It took time and probably soul-searching to get the number of letters in for a no confidence vote which might be lost in one evening. It’s an unpredictable ride. I suppose all one can do is the right thing as situations arise and not outwit those who use Machiavellian schemes – a bit like David not putting on Saul’s armour. This verse keeps coming to mind:
    “With the pure you will show yourself pure; and with the devious you will show yourself shrewd”. (Psalm 18:26).

  5. Mrs May repeatedly misconstrues what her ‘deal’ in fact achieves. This goes well beyond a matter of interpretation or ‘spin’, this is deliberate dissembling. In a word, I believe she lies. In this regard alone, she is deeply spiritually compromised, and hence has lost the moral authority to govern. I trust and pray the Lord will act in this matter in the common good.

    1. All we’ve got to do then is find a leader who doesn’t lie. With a plan that will work. On Northern Ireland.

      The fact is that Northern Ireland has got to be treated as if it was part of Ireland, and as if it was part of the UK, and that has to be achieved without treating Northern Ireland differently from anywhere else. That is impossible.

      It doesn’t help that Northern Ireland actually has, for many years, been treated as different, that their elected MPs from one party never attend parliament at Westminster, and that they have not had the individual assembly they are entitled to (mind you, English regions don’t get one of these !) meeting for almost two years, because of a childish quarrel. Why our futures should be determined by this minority baffles me.

      1. Of course it’s impossible, unless post No-Deal Brexit the UK simply keeps the border open and turns a blind eye to tariffs, as John Redwood has suggested. Then you start being unfair. It is open to any person elected to Westminster to refuse to swear allegiance to the Crown and therefore not attend. It can be argued the Assembly is not sitting because of a disagreement on points of principle. It’s far too facile to accuse people you do not understand of being ‘childish’. We try not to be unkind or gratuitously offensive here.

        1. Yes, I thought we had been here before.
          So God is saying to himself “It’s no good them voting for Brexit, I’m not going to allow it unless enough of them ask ME for it”.
          I find that difficult to believe. Lots of people find it difficult to believe.

            • Rox
            • Rox on 14 December 2018 at 02:20

            That should of course be in reply to the earlier one !

            • Stephen on 15 December 2018 at 16:57

            Because that’s not quite how it works!

        2. An Irish friend of mine has suggested that rulings on the Irish border really don’t matter, because people will smuggle things anyway.

          Perhaps “childish” is too strong a word, but “quarrel” isn’t. Are you aware that bilingual signs in English and Ulster Scots already exist, useful ones like :
          Disabled children Weans wi’ disablements
          Silverstream Park Sillerburn Pairk
          Café Aitin-hoos.
          I don’t think this goes on in Scotland itself very much.

          However, the authorities will not put up with signs in the genuinely distinctive Gaelic language, which is used in the Republic although scarcely spoken there either.
          As you well know, signs in English and Welsh are well tolerated without much quarrelling, even close to the border with England. One gets to understand the Welsh this way, actually, and it’s a feature of the place (no doubt at enormous cost !).

          It seems to me that an elected MP has a duty to represent his electorate, which he won’t do by sitting at home (or in one of the comfortable offices in Westminster which they will accept). The electors are partly to blame if they tolerate this. MPs are not at liberty to neglect their duties. But the electors shouldn’t instead be clamouring to change the fate of the whole of the United Kingdom, who have their own problems (in Kent, for example — why is County Antrim more important than Kent ?) .

          The Reverend Ian Paisley and quite a number of Catholics didn’t try very hard not to be unkind or gratuitously offensive to the other denomination, et al.

  6. My view is Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland should stop messing about trying to govern themselves to split from the rest of the nation, and go back to how they were. The reason is Britain is more powerful if it acts as one nation, and I really do hate the way Scotland is being so mean towards the English, trying to blame us for all of their woes. They seem to think the more power they have to govern themselves the better they will be, so ultimately they become a separate nation.

    This is just plain stupid, because small nations will not be able to fend very well for themselves and so they will be forced to be governed by the EU, just as it was with Malta. They didn’t like the idea but it was an economic necessity. It is also totally false that the English exploit the Scottish, or the Welsh or Irish, and on the contrary have been caring towards them. Britain as a nation is powerful because it has many trading links which go right back the empire. I believe we as one nation can survive leaving the EU and turn it around so we do better than we did, once it has all calmed down. However there are quite a few socialists who wish to destroy us. The SNP is the party I really do feel has been working for the devil. It’s so divisive. Look – the situation regarding normal people is the Scottish people and the English people get on very well on an individual level, but it is the crowd thing where they are led to hate us by politicians with a very dark agenda. It’s got to stop. If the Scottish really do want to be free then their best bet is to remain British, and indeed become fully British. Same goes for the Irish and Welsh.

  7. Thank you Stephen for identifying this as God’s will. His Word makes it abundantly clear He is in charge of the nations, NOT MEN (or Women), and He raises up or deposes in accordance with His will. Wicked leaders are often used as instruments of judgement!
    We should not be surprised at the chaos & confusion, not to mention duplicity & dishonesty. If we’re honest, it’s less than we deserve! We do pray for our leaders & Government in accordance with the Scriptures that they lead us in “righteousness” and not “wickedness”! They have repeatedly closed their ears to appeals on this, so we can only expect “judgement”! Yes, we appeal to the Lord, “In judgement, remember mercy”, but He is a just God and cannot & will not bless wickedness. So we also pray, “Thy will be done, and not mine”. Often people have to be brought to their physical knees before they will come to their spiritual knees & ask for mercy & salvation & restoration. Regards, David.

  8. It seems clear to me that if there is an accidental no-deal crash-out of the EU, this will demonstrate that the UK is unable to govern herself as an independent nation. I dare say the Lord will have to teach us this the hard way.

  9. Why is the only thing that seems to matter in this debate, from all I’ve heard on the TV and “news”papers, is how worse or better off we will be MATERIALLY? Will we prosper (economically) or not?

    No-one seems to give a fig about liberty, righteousness, democracy, justice, rule of law, national sovereignty, etc etc etc.

    Of course, liberty etc is no use if you’re going to starve to death, but a no-deal won’t be THAT bad! (will it?!!)

    1. See Richard North (EU Referendum blog) on the consequences of no-deal. Whether it will result in liberty etc. remains to be seen. If the consequences are bad enough, people will want a Strong Leader to sort it out, someone who doesn’t faff about with liberty etc., who takes emergency powers and who deals appropriately with the people who inflicted a no-deal Brexit on us. As a nation we do not do God, and liberty etc. developed only in nations that did do God. So if it were set aside in order to restore what is lost through no-deal would we get it back again? May God have mercy on us.

      1. John S: “If the consequences are bad enough, people will want a Strong Leader to sort it out, someone who doesn’t faff about with liberty etc., who takes emergency powers and who deals appropriately with the people who inflicted a no-deal Brexit on us.”

        yes, you could be right, John, an interesting thought. Mob rule, venomous political discourse etc has become a feature of our times: the leftists really hate conservatives/Christians (using “conservative” in the small “c” sense: I would not say the Conservative Party is conservative any longer).

  10. MY word to the Remainers is this:

    “If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.”
    ― Samuel Adams

    Here’s another quote from him that seems to me quite apposite:

    “No people will tamely surrender their Liberties, nor can any be easily subdued, when knowledge is diffused and virtue is preserved. On the Contrary, when People are universally ignorant, and debauched in their Manners, they will sink under their own weight without the Aid of foreign Invaders.”

    And again: “A general dissolution of principles and manners will more surely overthrow the liberties of America than the whole force of the common enemy. While the people are virtuous they cannot be subdued; but when once they lose their virtue then will be ready to surrender their liberties to the first external or internal invader.”

    But then he lived quite a long time ago, so can be safely dismissed as one of those ignorant, backward, uncivilised barbarians that knew nothing, unlike us in our Brave New World. Good grief, some of them even believed the Bible!

    Personally, I doubt the “great British people” would choose liberty, honour etc over the slightest economic hardship. Scare them enough with “Project Fear” and they’ll soon fall into line. The problem is ultimately spiritual, and moral, not political.

    1. Morals require a higher form of intelligence. Animals are not thought to posses morals and are driven by survival instincts, a kind of base form of intelligence. Notice it is this that is crowding out the film market. It’s the one thing all TV films bar a very small minority have these days. The fear you refer to is just one of these. Sex is another, and that’s why it is on the school curriculum. Control is the reason they do all of this. Very few of the general population have twigged how they are being controlled. Those who have would seek to minimise exposure. Indeed the less they are affected the more powerful they are, since this training is taking their free will away. I see this as on par with loss of soul. You effectively become a zombie. They tell you to jump and you jump.

  11. “Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.” (Benjamin Franklin)

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