Is veganism a religion?


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    • Mac888
    • Ian M on 6 December 2018 at 12:29

    Presumably vegans who call meat eating murder are also pro abortion. Surely religion is worship or adherance to a god or gods and so veganism can be part of a religion but not a religion in itself. Perhaps it is an ideology.

      • Stephen on 6 December 2018 at 14:17

      Yes, Ian, that’s a good point. It is only when you worship the Creator that everything falls into its proper perspective:
      Luke 4:8 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.

  1. I must admit that, with some amusement, I never gave vegan a thought! I regarded them as somewhat weird but that, eventually, they would get over it. It amazes me as to what crazy issues we manage to find time and money debating and then pursuing a ‘discrimination’ case in the light of another bizarre prejudice on to the ‘equality’ horizon. Have we got nothing better to do with our lives? Vegan is simply a belief system which people choose to adopt under their right of ‘choice’. If we make it into a religion, it is yet another pagan idolatry phenomenon to add to the pile we already have. Do we really need any more??!

    • Rox
    • Rox on 10 December 2018 at 23:46

    It is always said that Buddhism is an example of a religion without a god. So also is a lot of paganism as practised in England, where people immerse themselves in Nature but don’t worship Jupiter or the Devil or Woden, or even Celtic gods (about which little is known anyway). They might revere the Sun, but not, I think, with any personality like Apollo or Ra, rather as a great warming force of nature.

    But there certainly are religious elements to it. Not least, if a Vegan comes to my house, he expects me to lay on a vegan meal for him, but if I go to his house, he will not lay on a meaty meal for me. This is because meat is almost unclean and untouchable, not unlike pork for Jews and Muslims. Then there is the enthusiasm and the wish to convert others; also the idea that the world will come to an end if not everyone converts, or even if they do.

    There are similar religious elements to other types of “Green” movements, even if they are not vegan.

    It’s a little hard on ruminants to say that their sole purpose in life is to be eaten. It’s like saying that the sole purpose of a songbird is for us to enjoy its singing. They might enjoy singing and ruminating as part of their own lives.

    I may be wrong here, but it seems to me that the whole idea of everybody eating organic crops only is a fantasy, because it wouldn’t be possible to produce all these organic crops without the beneficial by-products of farm animals.

      • Stephen on 11 December 2018 at 07:20

      Organic is not necessarily vegan. We try to farm on organic principles. But the world economy is now so dependent on mono-culture with artificial fertilisers that a fully-organic world is not possible.
      I recommend Simon Fairlie’s ‘Meat – a benign extravagance’.
      He makes the point that when we feed cattle on grass and pigs on scraps, meat is an efficient way of securing our protein – he also recommends animal fats over vegetable fats, particularly palm oil, which requires deforestation.
      It’s when we start feeding grains to cattle and soya to pigs that meat starts getting expensive to produce.
      But what you write is thoughtful. Thank you.

    • Rox
    • Rox on 11 December 2018 at 18:17

    Blimey !

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