Nov 11

Asia Bibi witness o/s High Commission

Asia Bibi

Asia Bibi

Christian Voice is joining a witness for Asia Bibi outside the Pakistan High Commission tomorrow, Monday 12th November 2018. Citizengo and the British Pakistani Christian Association have called the witness, to start at 3pm.

We invite our Christian brothers and sisters to join us as we pray for her swift and safe exit from Pakistan.

Address of witness

Pakistan High Commission, 34-36 Lowndes Square, London SW1X 9JN
The venue is near Knightsbridge Station

And this author will just say I have never before put together an article and sent out an E-Alert about it on the Lord’s day. But the British Pakistani Christian Association have specifically asked for our help. They tell me they greatly value our attendance. And did not our Lord Jesus himself say our choice is stark?

Luke 6:9 Then said Jesus unto them, I will ask you one thing; Is it lawful on the sabbath days to do good, or to do evil? to save life, or to destroy it?

Acquitted of blasphemy

The Christian mother-of-four was accused of blasphemy by Muslim women in June 2009. This was in retaliation for her drinking from the same water supply as them. Some said she also told them Jesus had forgiven her sins and asked them what Mohammed ever did for them. She was convicted of blasphemy in 2010. Aasiya Naurin, to give her Urdu name, had been on death row ever since.

But just last month the Pakistan Supreme Court acquitted our sister. The court, we understand, articulated its decision with precision. the court was concerned to uphold the country’s blasphemy law. Equally, the ruling cited ‘material contradictions and inconsistent statements of the witnesses’. These ‘cast a shadow of doubt on the prosecution’s version of facts’.

Protests lead to bar on leaving

Pakistan's Muslims continue to call for Aasiya to be hanged.

Pakistan’s Muslims continue to call for Aasiya to be hanged.

The decision sparked immediate protests from Pakistan’s notoriously-moderate Muslims. Three days of riots ensued. A religious cleric, Qari Salam, submitted a petition. In response, the Pakistan government promised an unprecedented judicial review – a hearing of a petition – against the Supreme Court decision. They also promised legal proceedings to prevent Aasiya from leaving Pakistan.

Disgracefully, she has been offered asylum by the Netherlands, but not by Britain. The UK is understood to be terrified of protests by British Muslims. But how could that be true when our politicians repeatedly assure us that Islam is a ‘religion of peace’?

Pakistan's new prime minister Imran Khan pledged to restore Pakistan's tattered image abroad!

Pakistan’s new prime minister Imran Khan pledged to restore Pakistan’s tattered image abroad!


Former cricketer Imran Khan swept to office as Prime Minister in August. His was a populist platform. According to news agency Reuters he has promised to create 10 million jobs and build an Islamic welfare state.

However, Express Tribune points out his maiden speech
made ‘no mention of religious minorities, marginalised communities, attacks on women, religious intolerance’.

Furthermore, one whom some thought was imbued with a measure of courage caved in swiftly to the rioters’ demands. His promises to restore Pakistan’s tattered image abroad and to push tourism by building four new resorts a year must now lie in tatters.

Free but not free

Aasiya has now been freed and reunited with her family in a secret location. Nevertheless, Imran Khan’s decision keeps her under effective house arrest in a Pakistan filled with evil men bent on killing her.

Her lawyer has fled Pakistan, and the lives of two politicians who spoke up for Aasiya were ended by their body guards. Prime Minister Khan must firstly do everything he can to ensure her safety and security. Secondly, he must show some guts and allow her and her family to leave Pakistan.

Thirdly, the UK Government has to offer political asylum to Asia Bibi. Fourthly, our Foreign Secretary, Rt Hon Jeremy Hunt MP, should be calling in Pakistan’s High Commissioner, HE Sahebzada Ahmed Khan, and telling him Pakistan will be thrown out of the Commonwealth until it guarantees the rights of its Christians.

Prayer

Please pray for Aasiya Naurin (Asia Bibi). Pray for Imran Khan to show some courage. Pray for our Government to support Pakistan’s Christians. You might pray for the Lord Jesus to reveal himself to Muslims in dreams and visions and convict them of sin and their need for a living Saviour rather than a dead prophet. Lastly, please pray for a good turnout for tomorrow’s witness and for the realm of heaven to be shaken so that our sister and her family is released and Christians are protected in Pakistan.

Naturally, please join us outside the Pakistan High Commission at 3pm on Monday 12th November 2018 for an hour or two if you possibly can!

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  1. Of course the Government knows how peaceful Islam is. The politicians are lying to protect themselves. But would Asia be safe if she came here? Would the Pakistani Christians be safe ?

  2. Hello Stephen,

    Whilst I completely agree that compassion demands all Christians should pray for Asia Bibi to be allowed safe haven in the West – possibly Britain, if she so wishes. What concerns me is the constant reference to her ‘Christian’ faith when she is in fact a Catholic. I don’t judge where she stands before the Lord but the implication repeatedly given by default is that Roman Catholicism is just another branch of Christianity – albeit one that’s‘slightly’ off. This myth seems to be increasingly held by what I would otherwise regard as solidly biblical Christians and organisations. Having been raised as a Catholic and escaped from its clutches by God’s merciful grace, I was freed me from the years of guilt and fear that that religion had instilled in me. The Bible convinces me that I cannot accept that the RCreligion is anything but a vile deception. God command that His people come out of her. I pray that Asia should not only find bodily freedom from Pakistan but the true spiritual freedom that can only be found in the Lord, Jesus Christ.

    1. That’s surely another question, however important. I agree that Roman Catholicism has wandered away from the practices of the earliest Christians, but so too have protestant churches, not least (in their different ways) the Church of England and American fundamentalists.

      In this case what is important is the iniquitous behaviour of extreme Muslims, and the safety of Asia Bibi. Surely, if she were a Hindu or a Buddhist she would equally deserve asylum in the Netherlands or somewhere — why not the UK, in view of our long association with the peoples of India (and there are some Indian Christians here already). You can gently attack her Roman Catholicism if you like once she is here, and the world will see how different your approach is from that of extremist Muslims.

      1. When my Google Chrome browser stopped working, I switched to Firefox (which I had not used before) and Lo ! — I have got my little picture back ! Bye bye Chrome.

    2. Good point

      I think the bible says somewhere that there are grave consequences for those who pervert the word of God. So whatever has happened to her is God’s will. Perhaps this might shake her up a bit and put her on a better path. When some bad coincidence happens like this it often happens because you are going down the wrong one. Maybe she will be better off in the Netherlands. I feel she will be OK.

      1. Andrew. Seriously? Aasiya has stood up for the Lord Jesus in the face of aggression. She has spoken of the great salvation he has brought her and asked them ‘what did Mohammed ever do for you’? As for shake her up, she has endured nine years of confinement in a hostile environment. I hope and pray I never get shaken up like that. In that time she had every temptation to leave her Lord, accept Islam and walk free. Yet she held firm to the truth of the Gospel. And scripture says she could only have done that by the power of the Holy Spirit. So how has she perverted the word of God?
        1Cor 12:3 Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.

    3. We are the product of our experiences indeed. And our national history. In many other lands especially across the Middle East, you will find Christians under a variety of denominations, including the Coptic and the various Orthodox. Here, we are conscious that what we write may be viewed by Muslims or Atheists keen to exploit divisions between us. So we set a high value on unity.
      Referring to Aasiya, as many have pointed out here, brother, a tree is known by its fruits. Just pray you never get put to the same test.

      1. Stephen,

        People get genuinly saved in many places, including some who find themselves within churches and denominations that pay lip service to the Bible yet doctrinally ADD or SUBTRACT to/from the word. These churches do not hold to the minimum of what is accepted, essential biblical truth. They therefore preach another Gospel and as such are FALSE churches.

        Nothing can detract from any person who comes to a genuine saving faith wherever that may be – even if this occurs within such a false church – and, we must surely rejoice in anyone who comes to salvation in Jesus – we can leave it to the Holy Spirit to lead the individual into all truth.

        Surely though, as believers, we are not called on to corporately hold together in some kind of wishy -washy unity with all such false churches? Unity without essential central saving truth is always contrary to the Lord’s word. So yes, a high value in unity BUT always only in TRUTH.

        1. It must be very difficult to maintain a congregation which all members agree to offer doctrinally NO MORE and NO LESS than what is in the Bible.

          So difficult that perhaps it would be better if people who feel very strongly about this simply stay at home, and stick to the Bible and their own interpretation of it. No discussion, no non-Biblical ritual, would seem to be at all necessary.

            • Stephen
            • Stephen on 20 November 2018 at 14:17
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            No, because God has made us for fellowship, and the scripture regards faith not merely as an individual decision but as a corporate activity. It is one which builds us up, teaches, encourages, and of course administers the sacraments, in particular the Lord’s table. This is what the dear apostle says:
            Heb 10:24 And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works:
            Heb 10:25 Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.
            There will always be those who look for faults and others who dwell on what is good in a church or denomination. We are all different. That’s our human condition. God knows that. He made us.

            • Rocks
            • Rox G on 20 November 2018 at 15:19

            Fellowship, heresy and schism.

            It is very difficult.

  3. Historically the Catholic Church is the one which Our Lord Jesus Christ originally founded. All the other churches are ones which at various times, in Europe above all at the time of the Reformation, have broken away from the Catholic Church. Without it there could be no Protestant churches, because there would otherwise have been nothing to break away from. As with Protestant churches, the Catholic Church points out to its members that we are all sinners. In the confessional members have the opportunity of confessing their sins and through the mediation of the priest receiving Divine forgiveness and absolution. It is of course possible for a Catholic to pray directly to Christ and ask for forgiveness of his sins, but the confessional provides an impetus for self-examination, so that we do not become too self-righteous! I simply do not recognise in the Catholic Church an institution which “instills years of guilt and fear”. Asia Bibi, a Catholic, witnessed to what Jesus has done for her, and asked what Mohammed had done for people. She could not have given this witness, if the Church had instilled years of guilt and and fear in her.
    David Prentis

    1. David, my debate is not whether it is possible to have a saving faith in the Lord Jesus and yet remain a Roman Catholic (I strongly suspect it is, even though God commands us to come out of her my people …BUT, He also commands me to do things which sadly I all too often fail to do …yet, He still loves me, has forgiven me and given me ETERNAL security in Him.

      I should add that I am supportive of Asia Bibi’s stand and feel we should offer her and her family sanctuary here in the UK.

      The concern I was attempting to raise – however poorly – is with Bible believers and their representatives who continually make sweeping statements implying that the RC church is a representative of the Christian faith. This is something I take issue with – it is NOT, however, a debate about Roman Catholicism versus Protestism – the latter is often just as erroneous in their refusal to cling to God’s word, the Bible, for essential, foundational doctrine.

      In your response, you then compound things by your refusal to question whether the Lord Jesus really founded the RC church or ever appointed Peter to be the first Pope! A proper examination of history and the Bible would prove otherwise.

      As for your lack of fear and guilt – let me assure you that any former or lapsed Catholic I have ever met of my age group, has always shared this burden without them ever having been told by THAT church of the Lord`s desire to free us from this ONCE AND FOR ALL. Yes, we all need to be aware that each of us is a sinner AND that each and everyone of us is in need of a Saviour – AND, that He is the ONLY one who can deal with this – NOT the RC church, nor any other church or faith for that matter.

      You sound like a much younger man than me, probably therefore brought up by a more ‘modern-day’ Catholic Church – an institution known for it’s ability to change its spots according to the prevailing conditions it finds itself living in – severe where it can get away with it, but liberal if situations demand otherwise, or even willing to assume evangelical and/or charismatic language if it deems it to be to its advantage but always deep down denying or contradicting biblical truth.

      My belief therefore is that ANY organisation or individual that teaches anything to the contrary of the Bible is a grave deception and not of the Lord.

      1. I hope we can agree that Christ founded a church, an ekklesia, an assembly of believers. He did not intend us to be individualistic. We are built for fellowship. It follows that men will get together in a faith community to coalesce around what they believe the scriptures teach.
        Sometimes it is obvious, sometimes less so. ‘Do this in remembrance of me’, for example. Do it daily, weekly, monthly, once a year? One can make an argument for any of those. And that’s just one topic.
        Then at some time in the future a group in that church decide it has made too much of one position, and not enough of another, and after trying to change the church and failing, it becomes so important to them they leave to found their own church. And of course their’s is the more Biblical, and their previous friends are seen to be in error. And after some more time, the same process is repeated, and yet another church arises. The fiercest battles can be those between brethren. Sadly, the world looks on and cannot tell the difference between them, or understand its importance, so is left to conclude those Christians are always squabbling amongst themselves.
        But that we see someone imprisoned for her faith and conclude the most important point of discussion is not the evil of the faith which put her there but which denomination she is frankly appalls me.

        1. There is a danger here of getting bogged down by semantics. However, I feel it necessary to challenge any suggestion that just because a person, church or denomination refers to themselves as ‘Christian’, doesn’t mean they are accepted as such by the Lord. The Bible clearly shows us that this label can only be applied to those who accept a Bible-believing faith and we should shun fellowship with all those who don’t hold fast to this. It is true that many Christians have long held a range of interpretations on peripheral matters and this sadly has led to the many different denominations we see today. Nonetheless, those who share the essential biblical truths should be able to recognise one another as true brethren in the Lord. Sadly, a great many of today’s churches – even some originally solidly rooted in God’s word- have left their first love and as such are not – or no longer are – His church but places of deception. Born again believers who become aware of being in such a place should get out as fast as they can for what fellowship can light have with darkness. The issue here is not whether your church is perfect – you’ll be unlikely to find one. However, believers can only cling together in true UNITY , if they also hold together in the ESSENTIAL biblical truths of salvation : i.e. They acknowledge that a saving faith iin God can only be obtained through faith in Jesus Christ alone and this can only be done by those who , through the Holy Spirit, are made able to recognise their sinful nature, their need of Jesus as their personal Saviour and the totally comprehensive victory of the Lord’s death and resurrection which offers us full and final payment of our sin.. There are many churches that teach otherwise – the Roman Catholic Church being a prime example, though far from being the only one. How can I have any kind of true Christian unity with a church or individual who believes vastly different key doctrines – e.g. Those who believe in faith plus works, or who believe in the “sacrifice” of the mass, or of praying to Mary and the saints, or even in Mary as co-redemptorix to name but a few heresies? These and many other teachings of the RC church, as well as liberal theology and other anti-biblical teachings are contrary to His word and as such we are instructed to have no fellowship with. We need to flee from these. We therefore cannot have unity at any price just to maintain some outward appearance – this in fact will only serve to confuse those looking on! May I recommend any doubters dig deeper into the Bible where they will find great clarity on the matter – not opinions which might be open to interpretation. Doubters might do well to listen to Dave Hunt talking about Roman Catholicism and its grave errors on YouTube.

            • Stephen
            • Stephen on 21 November 2018 at 17:17
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            I had the undoubted benefit of reading through the Bible for the first time unaffected by any ‘theology’. No doubt Mr Hunt’s commentary is jolly worthwhile, but having spent paragraphs extolling the word, why not just commend the word? Anyway, it’s nice to know you consider the Coptic Church, the Orthodox, the Anglicans, Methodists, Reformed, Baptists, Brethren, Presbyterians and Pentecostals as all completely free from error!

          1. How sad that you misunderstand my various responses. I apologise if I have not made clearer what I was trying to say ithroughout my earlier comments on this matter. To clarify, I certainly believe that the Bible teaches that ANY church or person that either diminishes or adds to God’s word is preaching another gospel. However, I totally refute that I was in any way putting Dave Hunt on par with the Bible – though as an ex-Catholic, I do find his teaching on the errors of Roman Catholicism to be thoroughly scriptural and as such possibly helpful to others.

            The RC church just happens to be a prime example of gross errors, this being particularly so due to its long history of preaching a false gospel, to the point that I believe that the Bible clearly demonstrates that they are a cult. I don’tknow enough about the Orthodox or Coptic churches so, though I have my suspicions, choose not to comment further except to say that all I have previously said would apply to ANY denomination that departs from the essential central foundational truths of salvation.

            The various Protestant denominations you list AT LEAST mainly still have a vestige of holding to these essential truths – though some may have departed from these and where they have are just as much in error.

            If, as sadly many do today, anyone chooses to value ecumenical unity above true biblical unity, so be it – I leave that between them and the Lord but as for me, I will have no part in it.

            • Stephen
            • Stephen on 29 November 2018 at 17:41
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            I just find it a bit too glib and selective to single out one church, but I do understand the historical reasons for that. Furthermore, in the internet age, the words of Christ have an even greater imperative:
            John 13:35 By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.
            To speak ill of those whom every Atheist and Muslim regards as Christian runs counter to that clear instruction.
            Nor can we blithely dismiss unity with seemingly high-minded appeals to Biblical orthodoxy, when our Lord himself is so clear as to its value. We must at least take these words into account:
            John 17:20 Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word; 
            21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. 
            22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one: 
            23 I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me. 

        2. Stephen is right. There has been some appalling stuff written here about this affair. As I said much further back, it would make little difference if she were a Hindu or a Buddhist.

          1. Of course, we should be striving for her and her family to be offered safe refuge here in the UK – regardless of her religion or none – her life in Pakistan will always remain in great danger.

        3. The point I have been trying to raise is not where Asia Bibi, or any other individual, stands before the Lord …BUT, rather my concern is with any suggestion of unity, implied or otherwise, with a church/denomination/organisation that is DOCTRINALLY teaching a form of Salvation that is clearly contrary to His word on essential, central truths. In such circumstances, surely we cannot allow a desire to maintain some vague outward display of unity to override those basic biblical truths – any attempt to demonstrate such would patently be a false unity.

          Today, I see more and more churches and ‘Christian’ organisations allowing their human intellect to overrule the Lord’s clear teaching. They have allowed Ecumenical unity to outweigh Biblical unity. It is quite clear, at least to me, that TRUE UNITY can only be held together in harmony with HIS SALVATION TRUTH.

          However, perhaps this debate has become too protracted, so maybe we must leave it there, and if necessary agree to disagree.

  4. I have to admit that I did not know Asia was a Catholic! Nevertheless, she requires our full support in her present situation. Irrespective of our ‘religious’ affiliation, this situation is utterly deplorable where, apparently in Pakistan, the rule of law is subject to outright and damnable religious prejudices. The fact that the UK is hesitating to offer asylum is in itself further shame on our nation, damnably so, and demonstrates once again our complete loss of moral and integrity authority. Our leaders should be hanging their heads in shame. No wonder we are making a pigs ear of Brexit. No wonder we have vermin leading the official opposition in Parliament. No wonder we have mayhem on our streets with a government seemingly in no mood to deal with it. No wonder we are a GARBAGE NATION.

    1. Perhaps Michael should retire to Spain while he still can.

      But he is right : as I have tried to say before, the situation is deplorable no matter what our religious affiliation or hers,

    2. Michael. Christians do not use unkind language let alone call people ‘vermin’.

      1. Quite. And “making a pig’s ear” is offensive to Muslims.

        Michael could be worse. Goebbels described Jews and Bolsheviks as “lower than vermin”.

        1. yes, the new normal: always worrying about offending the muslims.

            • Rocks
            • Rox G on 28 November 2018 at 01:41

            And Jews and Bolsheviks and people generally. Stephen does not want you to use unkind language about people. Not even if their surname rhymes with “rump” or “dump”. (I feel a limerick coming on …..).

            I must insist that I thoroughly agree with a Jewish Home Secretay who said very publicly that free speech includes the right to offend. But on the other hand, inciting racial hatred is illegal. If the Weimar had had such a law, think what a lot of trouble it would have saved !

            • Rocks
            • Rox G on 30 November 2018 at 00:13

            Correction : Weimar Republic.

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