{"id":9517,"date":"2016-11-14T17:28:46","date_gmt":"2016-11-14T17:28:46","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.christianvoice.org.uk\/?p=9517"},"modified":"2017-08-11T18:03:12","modified_gmt":"2017-08-11T17:03:12","slug":"peter-tatchell-gays-and-muslims-unite","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.christianvoice.org.uk\/index.php\/peter-tatchell-gays-and-muslims-unite\/","title":{"rendered":"Peter Tatchell: Gays and Muslims Unite!"},"content":{"rendered":"
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Peter Tatchell addressing LGBT Humanists at the Conway Hall<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

Homosexuals and Muslims must unite in solidarity against ‘oppression’, Peter Tatchell has urged.<\/p>\n

The veteran gay activist issued his clarion call at\u00a0a meeting of LGBT Humanists at London’s\u00a0Conway Hall on Friday night (11th November 2016).<\/p>\n

Ethics and Tango<\/h2>\n

Over fifty attended the meeting deep in the bowels of the bastion of anti-Christian thinking. \u00a0Conway Hall is the headquarters of what was the South Place Ethical Society. \u00a0Incongruously, a tango-dancing club was meeting in the main hall.<\/p>\n

Only\u00a0about a quarter of those attending were women. \u00a0Around half of those were clad in Islamic dress.<\/p>\n

Peter Tatchell firstly tried to draw an artificial distinction between Muslims, Islam and Islamism. \u00a0Islam is a religion and Islamism a political system, he suggested. Muslims, he appeared to say, were innocent, powerless\u00a0bystanders to the excesses of the one and the atrocities of the other.<\/p>\n

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The Conway Hall, bastion of ‘humanist ethics,’ if there is such a thing.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

The Quran, he\u00a0declared, said nothing derogatory against sodomy. \u00a0It was only in the Hadith where homosexuality was outlawed and penalties prescribed. \u00a0The Hadith\u00a0were the sayings of Mohammed, ‘a mortal man’, whereas the Quran was divinely-inspired. \u00a0One presumes he meant\u00a0‘divinely-inspired according to Muslims’. \u00a0The thought of something being inspired by someone or something supernatural does not immediately appear to be a secularist concept.<\/p>\n

Peter Tatchell does not get Islam<\/h2>\n

Therefore, what Mr Tatchell tries to tell those Muslims he comes across, and it seems he comes across many, is that homosexuality is just fine if you will only go to the roots of Islamic faith.<\/p>\n

This is wrong for two reasons. \u00a0Firstly, the Hadith are not the ‘sayings’ of Mohammed, they are accounts of Mohammed’s life. \u00a0The word ‘hadith’\u00a0is Arabic for ‘story’. \u00a0Secondly, the Hadith carry equal authority with the Quran. \u00a0Mr Tatchell was thinking along Christian indeed along Protestant lines, where the Bible is the sole\u00a0authority in matters of doctrine. \u00a0It isn’t like that in Islam. \u00a0You cannot appeal to the silence of the Quran in matters where the Hadith wax eloquent.<\/p>\n

As to his\u00a0central premise that both homosexuality and being a Muslim are oppressed in Britain today, Mr Tatchell offered no evidence. \u00a0But he wanted to give his audience hope that gays and Muslims could indeed unite against the imaginary oppression. \u00a0Therefore he told us that 17% of Iranian students claim to be homosexual. \u00a0The figure is of course ludicrous and has been rubbished online<\/a><\/strong>.<\/p>\n

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Seven of the Muslim family of twelve wore burkas on their trip to Skegness, then complained when people were negative about them.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

Love in the Quran!<\/h2>\n

However, his relentless lobbying of the Muslim Council of Britain bore fruit in 2007 when they did not\u00a0oppose the Sexual Orientation Regulations. Inevitably the change of heart was fleeting. \u00a0MCB\u00a0reverted to type in 2012, when they opposed same-sex marriage.<\/p>\n

Although some homosexuals had experienced hatred from Muslims, Muslim hearts and minds were changing, Peter Tatchell claimed. \u00a0Young Muslims in schools had been\u00a0positive about gays, citing some imaginary ‘love and compassion in the Quran’. \u00a0He was working with ‘British Muslims for\u00a0Secular Democracy’, a fringe group if ever there was one, founded by the notorious ex-Muslim secularist and talking head Yasmin Alibhai-Brown<\/a>. \u00a0<\/strong>He was also proud to be a patron of ‘Tell Mama’. \u00a0This grievance group never stops looking around for real –\u00a0or\u00a0imaginary – discrimination against Muslims. \u00a0A recent ludicrous non-example was that experienced by the Skegness twelve<\/a><\/strong>.<\/p>\n

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Asia Bibi: still facing execution on a trumped-up charge of blasphemy in Pakistan<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

So last year his Peter Tatchell Foundation launched ‘LGBT-Muslim Solidarity – Fight All Hate’<\/a><\/strong>. \u00a0You really would need a heart of stone not to laugh at the infantile way ‘progressive’ people cast\u00a0their political opponents as motivated by ‘hate’ – as if they themselves aren’t. On the other hand, Peter Tatchell is an intelligent guy. Maybe he is sending them up.<\/p>\n

Demographic reality<\/h2>\n

Now to demographic reality. \u00a0Atheists and Christians alike in the United Kingdom are barely replacing their population. \u00a0Homosexuals, without outside intervention, do not have children. \u00a0Because they cannot procreate they have to recruit or adopt, but that is another story. \u00a0The only group\u00a0in the British population who are growing\u00a0is Muslims, whose women are simply\u00a0doing what their bodies were created to do. \u00a0It may be only a matter of some thirty years before Muslims, and that means Islam and Islamists, gain political control in this country. \u00a0The best advice for Christians and homosexuals alike is: ‘keep your passports up to date.’<\/p>\n

On a positive note, those assembled did allow me to ask a question. \u00a0In response Peter Tatchell was gracious enough to concede, to the dismay of sections of his audience, that Christians rather than homosexuals or Muslims are indeed the most persecuted group around the globe. \u00a0He spoke in particular of Pakistan and the ordeal of Asai Bibi<\/a><\/strong>, who cannot find a judge with the courage simply to release her. \u00a0Judges in Pakistan are all in fear of their lives. \u00a0From Islamists, not Muslims, no doubt.<\/p>\n

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