{"id":6542,"date":"2013-10-14T14:23:27","date_gmt":"2013-10-14T13:23:27","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.christianvoice.org.uk\/?p=6542"},"modified":"2013-10-16T13:20:57","modified_gmt":"2013-10-16T12:20:57","slug":"2013oct14","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.christianvoice.org.uk\/index.php\/2013oct14\/","title":{"rendered":"Secularists behind &#8216;end oath&#8217; campaign"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.christianvoice.org.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/2010AugustColchester-005.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-medium wp-image-6543\" alt=\"PENTAX DIGITAL CAMERA\" src=\"https:\/\/www.christianvoice.org.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/2010AugustColchester-005-225x300.jpg\" width=\"225\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.christianvoice.org.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/2010AugustColchester-005-225x300.jpg 225w, https:\/\/www.christianvoice.org.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/2010AugustColchester-005-600x800.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.christianvoice.org.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/2010AugustColchester-005-768x1024.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 225px) 100vw, 225px\" \/><\/a>Magistrates could ask the Government to end the ancient tradition of swearing on the Bible to tell the truth in court if a campaign by secularist groups succeeds.<\/p>\n<p>The Magistrates&#8217; Association, which represents 23,000 lay magistrates, has agreed to discuss a motion claiming that the oath should be abolished because\u00a0some people do not take it seriously.<\/p>\n<p>The Chief Executive of the Magistrates Association, Mr Chris Brace,\u00a0has told Christian Voice that rather than being discussed at one of\u00a0<strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.magistrates-association.org.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/MA-Committees-Terms-of-Reference.pdf\" target=\"_blank\">its policy committees<\/a><\/strong>, which was stated in the press, notably <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.dailymail.co.uk\/news\/article-2448011\/Scrap-Bible-oath-takes-seriously-Magistrates-Association-discuss-changes-act-swearing-tell-truth-court.html\" target=\"_blank\">in the Daily Mail<\/a><\/strong>, the proposal is being made as a member&#8217;s motion at its <span style=\"font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px;\">Annual General Meeting. \u00a0We understand the date for the 2103 AGM is Saturday 19th October, but the Association had not at the time of writing put the <\/span><strong style=\"font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.magistrates-association.org.uk\/members\/events.php\" target=\"_blank\">date on its website<\/a><\/strong><span style=\"font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px;\">.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Mr Brace said: &#8216;A member wishes to debate this at the AGM and the Board of Trustees decided that this was a motion worthy of debate, without fear or favour.&#8217;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px;\">Ian Abrahams, 62, a Bristol magistrate who is proposing the motion for scrapping the oath, said: &#8216;More and more I see people shrug their shoulders or say &#8220;whatever&#8221; when asked to take it.&#8217;I&#8217;m suggesting we take holy books out of the process. Instead, people will have to show they understand they could be sent to prison if they don&#8217;t tell the truth.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&#8216;I don&#8217;t intend my motion to make any comment on religion. It is certainly not anti-religious.&#8217;<\/p>\n<p>Christian Voice has now discovered that far from not being anti-religious,\u00a0<strong><a href=\"http:\/\/lawyerssecularsociety.wordpress.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">Mr Abraham&#8217;s initiative is supported by the Lawyers Secular Society<\/a><\/strong>, which has strong links to the rabidly anti-Christian National Secular Society. Last month the LSS secretary, Charlie Klendjian,\u00a0<strong><a href=\"http:\/\/lawyerssecularsociety.wordpress.com\/2013\/08\/13\/secular-europe-campaign\/\" target=\"_blank\">spoke at the Secular Europe Campaign<\/a><\/strong>. The Secular Europe Campaign is\u00a0<strong><a href=\"http:\/\/secular-europe-campaign.org\/supporters\/\" target=\"_blank\">supported by<\/a><\/strong>\u00a0the British Humanist Association and Richard Dawkins, and is both supported and promoted by the NSS.<\/p>\n<p>Church leaders, even without this information, also saw the underlying agenda.<\/p>\n<p>The Rt Rev Michael Nazir-Ali, former Bishop of Rochester, said: &#8216;This could be the slippery slope towards the increasing secularisation of society. Where will it end &#8211; with the Coronation Oath?<\/p>\n<p>&#8216;The Bible is bound up with the constitution, institutions and history of this country. It is right for people to have a choice of oath, a religious or non-religious one.<\/p>\n<p>&#8216;But we are being urged, in the name of tolerance and secularisation, to restrict that choice.&#8217;<\/p>\n<p>There is already an option for non-believers to take a secular oath, while those of other faiths can swear on their own holy texts. F<span style=\"font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px;\">or example, Muslims may swear on the Koran or Jews on the Old Testament.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>The Rev Arun Arora, director of communications for the Church of England, added: &#8216;Given that the last census showed almost 60 per cent of respondents self-identified as Christians and two thirds as people of faith, this proposal seems to ignore the statistical reality that we remain a faithful nation.<\/p>\n<p>&#8216;This kind of proposal seems driven more by blinkered campaigning agendas than abiding interests in justice and truth.&#8217;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px;\">Legal expert Lord Carlile said: &#8216;It would be unacceptable for the choice to take a religious oath to be removed.&#8217;<\/span><\/p>\n<p>For hundreds of years Christian witnesses have been required to hold the Bible and state: &#8216;I swear by almighty God that I shall tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.&#8217;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px;\">Under Mr Abrahams&#8217; proposal, the holy books would be removed and the oath would read: &#8216;I promise very sincerely to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth and I understand that if I fail to do so I will be committing an offence for which I will be punished and may be sent to prison.&#8217;<\/span><\/p>\n<p>A Ministry of Justice spokesman said: &#8216;We have no plans to change the arrangements for swearing an oath or making an affirmation in court, which have worked well for many years and still do.&#8217;<\/p>\n<p><\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Magistrates could ask the Government to end the ancient tradition of swearing on the Bible to tell the truth in court if a campaign by secularist groups succeeds. The Magistrates&#8217; Association, which represents 23,000 lay magistrates, has agreed to discuss a motion claiming that the oath should be abolished because\u00a0some people do not take it [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"om_disable_all_campaigns":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[86,184],"tags":[921,92,738,917,15,358,920,914,915,916,922,913,912,923,357,924,226,919,918],"class_list":["post-6542","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-secularism","category-uk-christian-constitution","tag-arun-arora","tag-bible","tag-british-humanist-association","tag-charlie-klendjian","tag-christian-voice","tag-church-of-england","tag-coronation-oath","tag-courts-management-committee","tag-ian-abrahams","tag-lawyers-secular-society","tag-lord-carlile","tag-magistrates-association","tag-maigstrates","tag-ministry-of-justice","tag-national-secular-society","tag-oath","tag-richard-dawkins","tag-rt-rev-michael-nazir-ali","tag-secular-europe-campaign"],"aioseo_notices":[],"rttpg_featured_image_url":null,"rttpg_author":{"display_name":"Stephen","author_link":"https:\/\/www.christianvoice.org.uk\/index.php\/author\/stephen\/"},"rttpg_comment":12,"rttpg_category":"<a href=\"https:\/\/www.christianvoice.org.uk\/index.php\/category\/uk-christian-constitution\/secularism\/\" rel=\"category tag\">Secularism<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.christianvoice.org.uk\/index.php\/category\/uk-christian-constitution\/\" rel=\"category tag\">UK Christian Constitution<\/a>","rttpg_excerpt":"Magistrates could ask the Government to end the ancient tradition of swearing on the Bible to tell the truth in court if a campaign by secularist groups succeeds. 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