{"id":5611,"date":"2013-03-28T09:30:24","date_gmt":"2013-03-28T09:30:24","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.christianvoice.org.uk\/?p=5611"},"modified":"2013-03-28T09:53:04","modified_gmt":"2013-03-28T09:53:04","slug":"2013mar28sick","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.christianvoice.org.uk\/index.php\/2013mar28sick\/","title":{"rendered":"Delinquents are ‘sociologically sick’"},"content":{"rendered":"
\"Andrea<\/a>
Andrea Sutcliffe, head of the ‘Social Care Institute for Excellence’<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

<\/strong>A new mental condition – \u2018Conduct Disorder\u2019 – was invented yesterday in a report commissioned by the National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence (NICE).<\/p>\n

\u2018Antisocial Behaviour And Conduct Disorders In Children And Young People – Recognition, Intervention And Management\u2019 is National Clinical Guideline Number 158<\/a><\/strong> and was jointly written by the National Collaborating Centre for Mental Health and the Social Care Institute for Excellence.<\/p>\n

Pages 29 and 30 offer advice to parents, who are told to \u2018encourage wanted behaviour rather than criticise unwanted behaviour\u2019.\u00a0 \u2018Shouting at a child to stop being naughty does not tell him what he should do, whereas, for example, telling him to play quietly gives a clear instruction which makes compliance easier,\u2019 they say.<\/p>\n

This \u2018positive parenting\u2019 model is very fashionable and sounds fine in principle but it may not be too firmly anchored in reality.\u00a0 The advice says of good parents:<\/p>\n

\u2018For example, instead of shouting at the child not to run, they would praise him whenever he walks quietly; then he will do it more often. Through hundreds of such prosaic daily interactions, child behaviour can be substantially modified.\u2019<\/p>\n

NICE assert that when parents \u2018find it hard to praise, and fail to recognise positive behaviour when it happens, the result is that the desired behaviour becomes less frequent\u2019.<\/p>\n

It isn\u2019t too clear if there is any evidence to support this model.\u00a0 Telling a child hundreds of times a day that he is doing things well amounts to at least a dozen times an hour, or once every five minutes.\u00a0 Such a relentless barrage of praise is highly likely to exasperate the child, even if any parent in the real world actually has the time.<\/p>\n

\u2018You are reading that book nice and quietly, Samantha!\u2019<\/p>\n

\u2018Yes, Mum, you told me that five minutes ago.\u00a0 And five minutes before that.\u00a0 \u2026\u2019<\/p>\n

Andrea Sutcliffe, Chief Executive of SCIE, defended the report on the BBC Today Programme yesterday morning<\/a><\/strong> against a skeptical John Humfrys and a down-to-earth psychiatrist Dr Sami Timini<\/a><\/strong>, author of \u2018Naughty Boys – Anti-Social Behaviour, ADHD and the Role of Culture\u2019, who objected to the invention of a new medical condition.\u00a0<\/p>\n

The interview is well worth listening to; move the cursor to 1:33:45:<\/p>\n

\"Professor<\/a>
Professor Sami Timini – opposes labelling children with psychological condititions<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

Professor Timini said that diagnosis in mental health \u2018only provides a description of a set of symptoms\u2019 and that diagnosis is \u2018a poor indicator of outcomes\u2019.\u00a0 Naughty children had a variety of backgrounds, he said, and the guidelines \u2018flew in the face\u2019 of the research.<\/p>\n

John Humfrys wondered if parents actually needed all the state agencies named in the report to fly to their aid.<\/p>\n

Stephen Green, National Director of Christian Voice, said today:<\/p>\n

‘No-one could be against praising children and building them up, but to contend that there is no place at all for correction and discipline, as the NICE report does,\u00a0is to propose a simplistic and one-dimensional framework of parenting which only works in the imaginations of social workers.<\/p>\n

‘Add to the mix the idea that anyone delinquent must be labelled with a mental condition and the full machinery of the state is starting to swing into play whenever a child is playing up.<\/p>\n

‘I don’t want to be mean,\u00a0but Ms Sutcliffe of SCIE, whatever that is, is exactly as I imagined her.\u00a0 In fact the whole executive of SCIE<\/a><\/strong> are much as one would imagine them: short-haired, greying, smiley women and a token man all committed to the idea that the state knows best.\u00a0<\/p>\n

‘Ms Sutcliffe is a member of the Department of Health’s Transformation Group and Care and Support Implementation Board.\u00a0 Did anyone know the DoH actually had such a body?\u00a0 And yet we are paying for it.’<\/p>\n

Andrea Sutcliffe lives in Crouch End with David Stout, deputy chief executive of the NHS Confederation, the membership body for health service organizations, according to the Guardian<\/a>.\u00a0 <\/strong>It is very much an NHS insiders enclave.\u00a0\u00a0Another Guardian report <\/a><\/strong>gives the impression that there are no children in the Stout \/ Sutcliffe home upon whom to try out the ideas in the NICE guidance.<\/p>\n

(The title of this article is based on a quote from the song ‘Gee, Officer Krupke’ from West Side Story in which the Jets mock the kinds of medicalised excuses liberal authorities use to rationalise the existence of hooligans like themselves.\u00a0 Full lyrics here<\/a>.<\/strong>)<\/p>\n

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