{"id":5339,"date":"2013-01-24T16:44:22","date_gmt":"2013-01-24T16:44:22","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.christianvoice.org.uk\/?p=5339"},"modified":"2013-01-25T09:02:11","modified_gmt":"2013-01-25T09:02:11","slug":"2013jan24cameron","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.christianvoice.org.uk\/index.php\/2013jan24cameron\/","title":{"rendered":"Cameron takes EU gamble as debt rises"},"content":{"rendered":"<figure id=\"attachment_5340\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-5340\" style=\"width: 218px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.christianvoice.org.uk\/index.php\/2013jan24cameron\/cameron-2\/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-5340\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-5340\" alt=\"David Cameron. Counting votes, or counting the defeict?\" src=\"https:\/\/www.christianvoice.org.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/01\/Cameron-218x300.jpg\" width=\"218\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.christianvoice.org.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/01\/Cameron-218x300.jpg 218w, https:\/\/www.christianvoice.org.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/01\/Cameron-600x825.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.christianvoice.org.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/01\/Cameron-744x1024.jpg 744w, https:\/\/www.christianvoice.org.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/01\/Cameron.jpg 800w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 218px) 100vw, 218px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-5340\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">David Cameron. Counting votes, or mis-counting the public sector defecit?<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>David Cameron has taken a gamble with his <strong><a title=\"BBC - opens in a new window\" href=\"http:\/\/www.bbc.co.uk\/news\/uk-politics-21148282\" target=\"_blank\">EU referendum promise<\/a><\/strong> but today stands accused of lying on the extent of the public debt.<\/p>\n<p>The Prime Minister yesterday said he would seek to renegotiate the United Kingdom&#8217;s position in the European Union and put the results to the people with an &#8216;In with revised terms&#8217; or &#8216;Out&#8217; question\u00a0by 2017 &#8211; assuming he is re-elected.<\/p>\n<p>However, in answer to a <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.spectator.co.uk\/isabel-hardman\/2013\/01\/camerons-red-meat-eu-speech-five-key-points\/\" target=\"_blank\">question from the BBC&#8217;s Nick Robinson<\/a><\/strong>, Mr Cameron was somewhat hazy on what would happen if his re-negotiations did not reach his aspirations.\u00a0 Indeed, no-one knows what criteria he has set down by which to measure success.<\/p>\n<p>Christian Voice believes Britain&#8217;s membership of the EU to be incompatible with her majesty&#8217;s coronation oath and the UK&#8217;s consequent constitutional position as a nation under Almighty God in Jesus Christ.\u00a0 We also see the EU as expensive, meddling, bureaucratic, oligarchical, corrupt, inefficient and pretentious.\u00a0 So we shall watch the political debate with interest.<\/p>\n<p>Following Mr Cameron&#8217;s speech, the Conservative Party ran a party political broadcast last night in which Mr Cameron said: &#8216;So though this government has had to make some difficult decisions, we are making progress. We\u2019re paying down Britain\u2019s debts.&#8217;<\/p>\n<p><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.spectator.co.uk\/fraser-nelson\/2013\/01\/david-cameron-tells-porkies-about-britains-national-debt\/\" target=\"_blank\">Fraser Nelson, writing in the Spectator<\/a><\/strong>, immediately accused the Prime Minister of lying:<\/p>\n<p>&#8216;David Cameron\u2019s policy is to increase Britain\u2019s debt by 60 per cent, more than any European country. To increase it more over five years than Labour did over 13 years.\u00a0 Just yesterday, we learned the national debt had hit \u00a31,111 billion and it\u2019s heading to \u00a31,400 billion.<\/p>\n<p>&#8216;By no stretch of the English language can this be described as \u201cpaying down Britain\u2019s debts.\u201d What Cameron said is not an exaggeration. It\u2019s a straight falsehood, and one that demeans his office. He has previously used different language, saying that he is \u201cdealing with the debt\u201d.&#8217;<\/p>\n<p>Mr Nelson says that people interviewed for the broadcast were asked to guess &#8216;how much the deficit is going down by&#8217;.\u00a0 He says: &#8216;They guess low figures \u2013 2 per cent, etc \u2013 and are then told that it\u2019s actually 25 per cent. Then they say how impressed they are with the Tories. Have you spotted the trick? No normal person knows what \u201cdeficit\u201d means, nor should they.&#8217;<\/p>\n<p>But according to the <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.ons.gov.uk\/ons\/rel\/psa\/public-sector-finances\/nov-2012\/stb---november-2012.html\" target=\"_blank\">Office for National Statistics<\/a><\/strong>:<\/p>\n<p>&#8216;Public sector current budget deficit was \u00a315.8 billion in November 2012; this is a \u00a31.0 billion higher deficit than in November 2011, when there was a deficit of \u00a314.8 billion.&#8217;<\/p>\n<p>Figures like that do not seem to imply a 25% reduction.<\/p>\n<p>The <strong><a title=\"ONS: Public Sector Finances, December 2012 (pdf)\" href=\"http:\/\/www.ons.gov.uk\/ons\/dcp171778_295776.pdf\" target=\"_blank\">Public Sector Finances for the end of December 2012<\/a><\/strong> were released by the ONS two days ago (22\/01\/2012).\u00a0 They reveal that Government borrowing under the Coalition is rising year-on-year by every indicator:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u2022 Public sector net borrowing was \u00a315.4 billion in December 2012; this is \u00a30.6 billion higher net borrowing than in December 2011, when net borrowing was \u00a314.8 billion.<br \/>\n\u2022 Public sector current budget deficit was \u00a313.0 billion in December 2012; this is a \u00a30.5 billion higher deficit than in December 2011, when there was a deficit of \u00a312.5 billion.<br \/>\n\u2022 For the period April to December 2012, public sector net borrowing (excluding the capital payment recorded as part of the Royal Mail Pension Plan transfer in April 2012) was \u00a3106.5 billion; this is \u00a37.2 billion higher net borrowing than in the same period the previous year, when net borrowing was \u00a399.3 billion.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>In Tables 1 &amp; 2, the ONS show that Public Sector Net Debt (PSND ex) has not decreased, as Mr Cameron and Mr Clegg appear to be claiming, but has risen in the financial year to date from \u00a31,010 billion at 31st December 2011 to \u00a31,111 billion at 31st December 2012, as Mr Nelson said.\u00a0 That is an increase of 10.1%, up from 66% to 71% of Gross Domestic Product.<\/p>\n<p>Borrowing one&#8217;s way out of a recession is <a href=\"https:\/\/www.christianvoice.org.uk\/index.php\/the-rotten-legacy-of-john-maynard-keynes\/\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>Keynsian economics<\/strong><\/a>, named after the promiscuous homosexual economist <a href=\"https:\/\/www.christianvoice.org.uk\/index.php\/the-rotten-legacy-of-john-maynard-keynes\/\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>John Maynard Keynes<\/strong><\/a>.\u00a0 We know that government debt is paid back by our children and grandchildren.\u00a0 No such considerations bothered Keynes.\u00a0 &#8216;In the long run we are dead&#8217;, he said.<\/p>\n<p>In contrast, financial security is said in Deuteronomy to be a blessing from God to an obedient nation:<\/p>\n<p>Deut 15:5\u00a0 Only if thou carefully hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to observe to do all these commandments which I command thee this day.<br \/>\nDeut 15:6\u00a0 For the LORD thy God blesseth thee, as he promised thee: and thou shalt lend unto many nations, but thou shalt not borrow; and thou shalt reign over many nations, but they shall not reign over thee.<\/p>\n<p>The United Kingdom is both borrowing from other nations and international bankers and allowing other nations to rule over us.<\/p>\n<p>Moses was told to appoint &#8216;able men, such as fear God, men of truth, hating covetousness&#8217; as rulers (Exod 18:21).\u00a0 If Her Majesty the Queen followed that principle, the available pool of ministers would, on present evidence, decrease sharply.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.ipetitions.com\/petition\/eureferendum\/\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>Please sign our Petiton for a referendum and an EU exit<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Post script. In contrast to Government profligacy, households are making considerable headway clearing their debts, with the amount owed on personal loans dropping to its lowest level in 14 years, according to a report from the Britiah Bankers Association.<\/p>\n<p>The total balance owed by consumers on all personal loans fell to \u00a334.5billion in December, the lowest figure seen since August 1999 and almost half its pre-financial crisis peak.\u00a0 <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.thisismoney.co.uk\/money\/cardsloans\/article-2267705\/Personal-loans-drop-lowest-level-14-YEARS-cautious-households-clear-debts.html?ito=feeds-newsxml\" target=\"_blank\">See: thisismoney<\/a><\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Find out how to join Christian Voice and stand up for the King of kings (clicking on the link below does not commit you to join)<\/strong><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/wp.me\/P1OVTZ-gb\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-3940\" style=\"border: 0px;\" title=\"Join Today!\" alt=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/www.christianvoice.org.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/08\/Join_donate_Logo2.jpg\" width=\"185\" height=\"180\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Please note that persons wishing to comment on this story must enter a valid email address. 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