Jun 08

Vigil Muslims are Ahmadiyya ‘heretics’

Ahmadi boy holds a poster in a vigil which directs to the Ahmadiyya website, next to their main slogan of 'Love for All, Hatred for None'

Ahmadi boy holds a poster in a vigil which directs to the Ahmadiyya website, next to their main slogan of ‘Love for All, Hatred for None’

Many will have been cheered by images of Muslims at vigils for the recent victims of terror.

The mainstream media have been quick to promote the idea of Muslims standing in solidarity with society. After all, it bolsters the establishment proposition that Islam is a ‘religion of peace’.

Nevertheless, after a bit of analysis, it appears virtually all the Muslims we saw at the recent vigils have been from the Ahmadiyya sect.

The sect has been prominent in the aftermath of the London Bridge and Borough Market attacks.  Their women were lined up on Westminster Bridge, as the Independent reported.  A minute’s silence on the Bridge, reported in the Metro, also saw Ahmadiyya slogans prominent.

The Muslim women on Westminster Bridge were all Ahmadi

The Muslim women on Westminster Bridge were all Ahmadi

Love for all

It is nice to remember that not all Muslims want to kill and maim kaffir, or unbelievers.  All the same, to claim these peaceful Muslims as representative of majority Islam is a bit of a stretch.

The Ahmadi use slogans such as ‘Love for all, hatred for none’.  Indeed, that becomes their website name.  In addition, they believe the Muslim Messiah has come.

Ahmadiyya is named after its founder Mirza Ghulam Ahmad of Qadian in 1889. Ahmad claimed he was the awaited Messiah and Mahdi prophesied by ‘Prophet’ Muhammad and foretold by the Qur’an.

Ahmadiyya HQ in Morden, Surrey

The Ahmadiyya have mosques all over Britain with eight in Greater London alone.  The largest mosque in Western Europe is their international headquarters in Morden, Surrey.  The Baitul Futuh Mosque (English: House of Victories), was completed in 2003.  It cost approximately £15 million, which came entirely from donations given by the 30,000 Ahmadi Muslims in the UK.  So the sect is not poor or small.

Ahmadi slogans - but is this the 'True Islam' fallacy?

Ahmadi slogans – but is this the ‘True Islam’ fallacy?

Nevertheless, alongside majority Islam those numbers are tiny.  The 2011 census showed 2.8 million Muslims in the UK.

Islam has 1.8 billion adherents worldwide, of whom something over ten million are Ahmadis.

Ahmadayyi started In the Punjab but the sect is now persecuted in Pakistani.  By a law passed in 1974, no Pakistani Ahmadi may call himself a Muslim.

Canon Giles Fraser, writing in the Guardian, says: ‘Even the application form for a Pakistani passport has a section requiring all Muslims to condemn the founder of their community, making Pakistani citizenship all but impossible for Ahmadis.’

That is why the sect is now headquartered in Surrey.

Regarded as heretics

The Ahmadiyya practice the first five Sunni Muslim pillars of Islam.  That’s the Shahadah, Prayers, Fasting, Alms and the Hajj.  They omit the Sixth Pillar of Jihad, unsurprisingly.  But despite the similarities, Sunni Muslims, the Muslim majority worldwide, regard them as heretics or unbelievers.  So do the Shia minority like them?

Ahmadayya slogans are at the fore in the minute's silence on Westminster Bridge

Ahmadayya slogans are at the fore in the minute’s silence on Westminster Bridge

No.  Because the Ahmadi spun off from the Sunni, they are nine-carat heretics to the Shia.

Giles Fraser goes on: ‘Remember the shopkeeper in Glasgow, Asad Shah, who was stabbed to death after posting a message of Easter greetings on his Facebook page? He was Ahmadi. This morning (7th July 2016) a Bradford cab driver admitted to murdering him for “disrespecting” the prophet.

So let us not be fooled by images of ‘Muslims’ standing in solidarity with the fallen.  These are sadly not Sunni Muslims renouncing the Jihad.  We might applaud the peaceful

ways of the Ahmadiyya.  However, they may have the effect of convincing the unaware that Islam as a whole is peaceful.  Regretfully, it is not.

Secondly, the followers of Ahmad may convince themselves that they have found the world’s Messiah.  Again, they have not.  There is only Messiah, the Lord Jesus Christ.

Acts 16:31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house. 

Acts 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved. 

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  1. Rox

    Who exactly were the Christians who demonstrated against “Jerry Springer, The Opera” ?
    Does it entirely invalidate a message if a particular group is prominent in publicising it ?

    In fact, in my experience, most of the young people who say “I am a Christian” or “I became a Christian” do not belong to any of the main denominations.

    However, this is a very informative piece.
    Since 1965, Morden has been part of London, by the way, not Surrey.

    1. Stephen

      Morden is the London Borough of Merton and its address is ‘Morden, Surrey’.

      1. Rox

        That’s right. It’s merely because the additions to Greater London in 1965 were never given London post-codes. The same is true of Croydon, Bromley, etc, and not least Middlesex (insofar as it wasn’t already part of London). Downe, Kent, home to Charles Darwin and Nigel Farage, is in London.

        But we digress.

        Who exactly were the Christians who demonstrated against “Jerry Springer, The Opera” ?
        Does it entirely invalidate a message if a particular group is prominent in publicising it ?

  2. Epistle

    It is encouraging to hear of this sect and their peaceful intent. But what we seem to need is a theological wedge to drive between moderate Sunnis and the Wahhabi extremists. The latter should be isolated from the wider Islamic community and mopped up, imprisoning all we can. The funding of this extreme form of Islam from Saudi Arabia and perhaps Qatar needs to be stopped – I believe a report on this is yet to be published by the Government, presumably as it is seen as too hot to handle. However, “enough is enough,” which should now include upsetting wealthy allies where necessary. Our lives and freedom is at stake.

  3. [email protected]

    DEar Rox,

    well along with Stephen I protested against Jerry Springer the Opera when it came to London.

    This is a very informative piece but Islam’s main aim is to subjugate the entire world. It happened centuries ago in Europe and that is what provoked the Crusades that, sadly, the church seems to overlook.

    1. Rox

      The Crusades were provoked by the occupation by Muslims of the Holy Land and other territory which had belonged to the Byzantine Empire, not in Europe, though.

      Much later, the Muslims took over that part of the Byzantine Empire which was in Europe, notably Constantinople, and also most of the Balkans including Greece. This did not provoke another crusade. Naturaly, Western Europe (particularly Austria) was anxious to defend itself, and did so when necessary, but was often on quite good terms with the Turks (e.g. Mozart and others borrowed a version of “Turkish music”, and used Turkish settings for operas). Western painters painted portraits of Turkish emperors for them.

      Long before the Crusades, Muslim incursions into France had been expelled, and Muslims settled in southern Spain were (along with Jews there) later converted or forcibly expelled by Christians. Piracy by any nation (not least by England against Spanish ships) was of course discouraged, as was the taking of slaves.

      At no point did Islam come anywhere near to subjugating Europe, let alone the whole world.
      Christianity, in the form mainly of the armies of Spain, Britain, and France, did come very much closer to subjugating the whole world — both Americas, Africa, Australasia, and large areas of Asia (but without so much conversion in Asia, although perhaps we shouldn’t forget the Russians in the north of that continent).

      Placed against all this, the poor old Ottoman Empire and its predecessors is beginning to look almost tiny,

      1. Rox

        It’s understandably difficult to get exact figures on this, but the numbers are so wide apart that this doesn’t really matter. The combined population of the British Empire and the French Empire in 1918 was about 500 million, whereas the population of the Ottoman Empire was less than 19 million, and it had never been more than 21 million.
        Of course, this 500 million does not include countries in the Americas which had already gained complete independence from Britain, France, Spain, and Portugal.
        So who was it with an eye on subjugating the entire world ?

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