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  1. Jackie Holden

    Very interesting indeed. This morning I was remembering where the Lord says: I will make you the Head not the tail. I looked at some references to tail and it was speaking about demonic powers in the tail, and there was a reference to this in Revelation. The other say as I was listening to Max Mclean on-line reading from Psalms, there was a reference to the tails being liars, and the Lord reveals what happens to liars. I found this incredibly comforting, as I have encountered liars in my time, and they have lied about me. I felt so loved and cherished by the Lord as I heard Him say of His men of God: I hath made you the head. He hath made you the head Stephen, and in you He is well pleased. I bless you in Jesus name. Amen.

  2. Roy Searle

    So it appears that Dr Charles Reed is Church of England’s Foreign Policy Advisor, Secretary of Europe Bishops’ Panel, International Development Secretary for the Archbishops’ Council, House of Lords staff member for the Bishop of Wakefield, he represents the Church of England on the Church and Society Commission of the Conference of European Churches and is the Church of England’s International Policy Advisor.

    I wonder if he has any spare time left to acquaint himself with the views of ordinary Church of England members.

  3. Rev Dieter Quick

    As I see it, there is a good measure of reason in the stance the Archbishops take, that sadly is missing in Europe-hostile camps. As a Christian who came to live in Britain a few years ago, I continue to be astonished and utterly bemused at the hositility and unhelpfulness of British contributions in the face of severe challenges European politicians and peoples are facing.

    1. Mark W

      Dieter hi,

      I think one of the main problems that some (myself included) but not all British people have with the EU is a real lack of democracy and a natural skepticism towards the European project, but especially the Euro – the introduction of which was carried out utilizing guile and deception, the Greek government having contracted Goldman Sachs to lie (in a clever way of course) about their suitability for Eurozone membership.

      I think too that the British feel more than a little short changed as we were originally taken into the EEC with no referendum (this was only given AFTERWARDS – by which time there was natural traction towards our continued membership.)

      As regards, as you say, “I continue to be astonished and utterly bemused at the hositility and unhelpfulness of British contributions” one thing I should point out to you is that the UK is the 2nd biggest financial contributor towards the EU – that’s some ‘contribution’ wouldn’t you say??

      On a real funny note I did a quick search on your name and so I’m sort of guessing that you are the Music man at Christchurch – Harwood? I looked at the front page of your churches website and lo and behold by Gods providence the verse of the day is

      “Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin condemns any people.”

      This was exactly the verse I was going to quote, you see Dieter this is where the church seems to get it wrong. You can have all the cross border cooperation in the World, all the political union, all the sharing of resources etc etc but if you have a large chunk of unrighteous you will not have a healthy, happy, contented, caring, loving, peaceful society.

      From an economic perspective only, as Stephen has so brilliantly pointed out in his book Britain in Sin, unrighteous is a REALLY REALLY REALLY expensive thing.

      Imagine just for one second that you in an instantly removed the following from the UK;
      Crime
      Illegitimacy
      Marital breakdown
      Child desertion
      etc

      Economically, the UK would be out of debt, free of the deficit, a place where no one need worry about their property, their children’s safety, their well being etc.

      The problem I have with Europhiles is the same as I have with people who put their faith in the UK’s government. That’s that the State cannot bring about righteousness, only The Lord Jesus can, the state can punish wrongdoing (which it doesn’t) and restrain evil – ‘put not your trust in princes’ said the psalmist.

      Amen to that I hope everyone on here can say

      God bless

      Mark

      1. Paul

        Amen to that. :)

        …Liked your other comments, by the way: “the salivating conformists at CofE HQ” are indeed a curious assortment of chocolate teapots.

    2. Paul

      “I continue to be astonished and utterly bemused at the hositility and unhelpfulness of British contributions in the face of severe challenges European politicians and peoples are facing.”

      Could you perhaps provide examples? How is one helpful to a European politician? By endorsing the EU?

      Do you understand why people here might have good reason to be “Europe-hostile”, or do you view it simply as xenophobic ignorance?

  4. Rob Hudson

    I too received the same reply from Dr Reed. I intend to do further research on his stance, position and influence. I’m sad to say that I now expect the C of E to support such things as psuedo-scientific ‘climate change’ and the E.U.

  5. Jackie Holden

    And I will restore your judges as at the first, and your counselors as at the beginning: afterward you shall be called, The city of righteousness, the faithful city. Isaiah 1:26. Amen Lord! I believe Britain is a prodigal and Ezekiel 16 describes us. The end of the chapter is awesome…the prodigal turns back to the Lord and He receives her with open arms.

  6. Mark W

    Well I looked at the article by Charles Reed’s name and to be honest its the usual waffle that can be expected of the salivating conformists at CofE HQ
    The amazing thing is that Charles Reed seems to think hes so important that he can post a chunk on his blog titled – get the sick bag ready – “My 7 point plan for stopping another Houla (the place in Syria where the massacre occured)”

    http://ethicalcomment.wordpress.com/2012/06/01/being-foreign-secretary-for-the-day-preventing-another-houla/

    At the end of his ‘plan’ he asks “Let me know what you think about my 7 Point Plan. Alternatively, let me know what you would do if you were Foreign Secretary for a day.”

    Needless to say only one person has left any comment on his ’7 point plan’, so rather than joining in I took a quick look on Alexa to find his blog languishing at 4,833,258 on the world wide web.

    The egos of some of these people amaze me

  7. Mark W

    PS

    I posted this on Charles site

    http://ethicalcomment.wordpress.com/2012/06/18/europe-and-its-crisis-of-legitimacy/#comment-633

    If it doesn’t get censored (ops I mean moderated) you can read it.

  8. Marcia Simpson-James

    Who is this Chris Reed? Where does he come from, and who ‘picked’ him? ‘What’ is this person? He gives the impression of being a person who deals with smoke and mirrors. He seems not to identify with God or Christianity, but power and “glamour”.

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