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Mar 28

Tesco – now it’s mice infestations

It doesn’t get any better for Tesco, who have seen their ‘big price drop’ flop, sales and profits drop, the worst perfomance of the ‘big four’ over Christmas, their share price plummet, their UK operations CEO sacked, their local management in a spin, all since announcing a £30,000 gift to London Gay Pride in November 2011.   And only days ago we reported on a Tesco manageress in Gravesend calling the police because one of our members was giving out our ‘Boycott Tesco’ leaflets outside her store.

Now it’s an infestation of mice in Tesco’s flagship Tesco Metro in Bedford Street in London’s Covent Garden.  The store has been closed by Westminster Environmetal Health Department.

This is not the first time mice have been found in Tesco.  Just over a year ago, in December 2010, a shopper in Birmingham was horrified to see baby mice fall out of crisp packet she picked off the shelves in Tesco’s Aston store.

Customer Liz Wray told the Daily Mirror: “There were half a dozen of them crawling out of different holes in the crisps and we couldn’t believe our eyes. All staff did was put a ­cardboard box over them and close aisle six.

“I’m not sure if they were inside the multipack or if they were just in amongst the packets.

“But there were a lot of holes in the bag, they’d obviously been at them.”

She was astounded that staff did not close the store.  To let mice feed in the store would be bad enough.  For mice to be allowed to build a nest in the stock betrays a lack of seriousness over hygiene and general cleanliness.

And the same inability to distinguish between right and wrong is behind their decision to support ‘gay pride’.  Philip Clarke was elevated to CEO and the recently-departed Philip Brasher to UK Chief in March 2011.  It has all goine wrong since then.  Tesco’s only hope is to put their trust in God.  Repenting of the ‘Gay Pride’ decision will be part of that.

 

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  1. Dave

    Wow! I’m impressed with your deity. Day by day, he ignores suffering, poverty, war and famine. Yet upset him by giving a bit of money to a festival celebrating human rights, and he sends in the mice. That’s power.

    1. John

      Dave, “celebrating human rights”. Sorry I am confused

      1. Dave

        I can’t say i’m surprised

    2. Dave P

      God, doesn’t ignore suffering, war, poverty and famine. He came to earth and suffered amongst us to show us a better way, but most of us ignored Him. Christianity hasn’t been tried and found wanting, it just hasn’t been properly tried yet.

  2. Bob Hutton

    As the Bible says “God is not mocked, whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.” (Galatians 6 v 7). This applies to large companies like Tescos as well as individuals.

    1. Brian Lally

      A little helps!
      Yep Tescos is actually helping Britain understand, a little by little, the consequence of a little ‘iniquitous’ help to the sodomites! This litle helpful truth is going a long way! a very long way! When the Tesco boat is about to sink, I hope they realise they need to throw Lansley off!
      And I will continue to pray that Tesco will not recover until they do throw this sodomite overboard!

  3. Phil

    Dave, thank you for seeming to be the only rational person on this website. I agree completely with everything you’ve been saying, and I too am getting increasingly frustrated with this evangelist cult website. This entire organisation is built on what can only be described as religious fascism, who use their religion to justify their prejudice.

    If God hates gays so much, why the hell did he invent them? I’m waiting to be quoted this original sin crap that makes no sense at all. “Hey, I’m going to send you down to earth but already condemn you even before you’ve learnt to talk.” Talk about not judging a book by its cover, he’s not even looked at the f***ing book. There are just so many illogical ideas that don’t make sense, and you can quote me all the bible nonsense you like, just because it’s in a book doesn’t mean it is evidence. (“Oh Phil, why do you believe in magic? Well I’ll refer you to The book of Potter, Chapter 12 – Hogwarts school of wizardry”) If you were able to have an open mind, then maybe you’d challenge your own beliefs, and concurrently understand that it’s okay to find flaws in your religion and build new beliefs around that.

    1. Dave

      Welcome to the party, Phil. It’s wild.

      1. Ian

        I’m in too. This website is gold. It’s a shame it’s blocked by my work Webmaster as it’s categorised under ‘hate and intolerance’. Gives me something to do in the evenings when I’m not worshipping false idols I suppose.

  4. Mark

    To Dave and Phil,

    I’m very sorry if everyone does not agree with your world view or sensibilities – might I suggest reading the BBC or maybe the Guardian? I’m sure you can delude yourselves to your hearts content on these sites. Lol!

    1. Dave

      If recognising reality as reality and fantasy as fantasy makes me deluded, Mark, I’ll accept it.

      1. Stephen

        Christians can tell the difference between reality and fantasy. God, for instance, is reality, the idea that the tail of the peacock or the tuft on the head of the tufted duck just ‘evolved’ is fantasy. Delusion IMHO also comes in seeing truth as falsehood and obvious spiritual reality as fantasy.

        1. Dave

          So if God is reality, show me God. Not ancient books, not circumstantial evidence or philosophical hypothesis, but real, testable, physical evidence.

          1. Dave

            Phil – I’d be careful of using bad language here. Personally, I have no problem with such stuff. But Mr Green is an utter prude about these things, and apt to censor.

          2. Stephen

            He is also keen to have comments spelt correctly and framed grammatically. I tidied one of yours up earlier, Dave, but there was too much on Phil’s as well as the profanity, so into the bin with it.

          3. Dave

            Maybe you could spend more time actually answering our questions or addressing our issues.

          4. Stephen

            You may as well say the same for love. Show me real, testable, physical evidence of it.

          5. Phil

            Please, for my own interest, can you answer why you personally feel God created homosexuality, but also condemns it.

          6. Stephen

            Where did we say God created homosexuality?

          7. Dave

            Further to Phil’s question, can you also explain why you feel God created cancer but doesn’t condemn it.

          8. Stephen

            It’s down to the fall of man, dear Dave. Before that, it was ‘very good’.

          9. Dave

            Further to my own recent question, I’d love to know why God also created hate, war, poverty, malaria, the angler fish, Westlife, earthquakes, dinosaurs, dodos, tsunamis and Scientology.

          10. Stephen

            Mankind is very good at creating hate, war, poverty, musical groups and bogus religion. Disease and the groaning of creation is down to the fall of man. Amazing animals show God’s glory.

          11. Dave

            “I tidied one of yours up earlier…” Isn’t that an example of a split infinitive?

          12. Stephen

            No. There needs to be an infinitive to split.

          13. Phil

            “Thus says the Lord, your Redeemer, and the one who formed you from the womb, “I, the Lord, am the maker of all things, stretching out the heavens by Myself, and spreading out the earth all alone.”

            Doesn’t your argument contradict the bible. Even if you argue otherwise, if he didn’t create homosexuality, who did?

          14. Stephen

            Homosexual acts are a sinful perversion of God’s created order. Fallen man is disposed to sin. So no-one ‘creates’ homosexuality, any more than anyone ‘creates’ adultery or ‘creates’ stealing, or murder, or lying. Man does these evil things because man is sinful by nature.

          15. Dave

            But if God created everything, he simply must have created sin

          16. Stephen

            Sin is not a ‘thing’. Sin is rebellion from God.

          17. Steve

            Hi Dave, You say show me God. I say He is everywhere. Check out Psalm 19.1. The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handy work. Check out Ps 14.1 The fool has said in his heart, There is no God.. Two things we can draw conclusions from this. One, God is seen everywhere every day in what has been created. And two. God calls those who do not believe in what their eyes see and tell them that God is real is a fool. Ok so what I hear you say, ‘I don’t believe the bible’. Are you aware that proof in the form of textual evidence IE. ancient manuscripts for the evidence of the existence of Jesus and the validity of the new testament is more than 25000 texts and manuscripts? Most of these were written within 100 years of the death of Jesus. The next one that doesn’t even come close to that number is Homers Iliad. The number of manuscripts for it numbers a mere 643. The oldest one being from the 13th century. Homers work dates from the 8th century BC. No one doubts the validity of this work. Check out the article here http://www.compellingtruth.org/did-Jesus-exist.html This is only one example of many that prove the reality of God. On top of that we have a pile of other stuff to prove the validity of the truths of the bible. Take prophecy EG. One example I offer is the entire chapter of Isaiah 53. This reads an entire account of the crucifixion of Jesus centuries before it came to be. And long before Jesus walked the earth. Psalm 22 gives an account of Jesus on the cross right down to the very words He recited. Check the article here http://carm.org/questions/about-jesus/why-did-jesus-cry-out-my-god-my-god-why-have-you-forsaken-me The most recent fulfilment of prophecy would be the Jewish people returning to their homeland of Israel in 1948. Deuteronomy 28:64 And the LORD shall scatter thee among all people, from the one end of the earth even unto the other. But He promised them He would bring them back to the land He gave them. Check the story here http://www.bridgetothebible.com/12%20reasons/Reason%205.htm Added to this is the personal experiences from a myriad of born again christians throughout the earth. Miracles and visions in their lives. To quote Holy Scripture The fool has said in his heart, There is no God. Now, in the light of being in possession of information such as this, the next question begging to be asked is what shall I do? My prayer is, that one would immediately accept Jesus as their Lord and Saviour. The end of history the book of revelation tells us will involve standing before the Jesus you either accept or reject. The consequences the bible tells us are dire. Hells awaits those who reject. Heaven for those who accept. The choice lies with those who read this.

          18. Dave

            Thanks, Steve. But ancient books won’t do it; threats won’t do it; only one thing could make me believe in your deity. Show me God.

  5. Dave

    I love, therefore love exists. It probably doesn’t answer your question, but then what does that prove? Now show me God.

    1. Stephen

      Show me real, testable, physical evidence of your alleged ‘love’.

      1. Dave

        I asked first. Show me God.

        1. Stephen

          You are not the first to ask. From the King James Bible:
          John 14:8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
          9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?
          10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
          11 Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works’ sake.

          1. Dave

            I’m not the first and I won’t be the last. But you still haven’t shown me God.

  6. Graham

    Hi Dave
    Many Atheists don’t want to take what the Bible says as proof for the existence of God as they don’t believe that the Bible is what it says it is (the Word of God) This is where ‘Natural Theology’ comes in. Natural theology looks at the things that are outside of us such as space, time, material objects etc – and those things that we find operating inside of us like objective moral values etc and concludes that the best explanation for these is that they originate with God. I’m very new to apologetics but I would say that if you are genuinely interested in the question “Does God exist?” you could do a lot worse than looking at http://www.reasonablefaith.org

    Looking for God is what He wants you to do!

  7. Toncek

    Dave, and all the secularists here,

    You ask, ‘Show me God’.

    OK, carefully consider the sequence of events from the birth of the caterpillar to the formation of a chrysalis and then to the birth and flight of the butterfly.

    Do you not see the hand of a Creator, a Designer, in all of that?

    1. Alex O'Riordan

      Seems a bit of a long-winded, unnecessary and redundant way to create or design a butterfly to me.

  8. Rhoda

    You’re asking the wrong person, Dave. Try asking God.

  9. Justin

    William the Conquer built the origin Windsor Castle, so they say. I can’t show him to you but we trust history that he existed since the castle is there. The Bible says that we have the whole of creation to show His existence and the scripture has never been proved wrong in prophecy and historical fact – where historians have often alleged error, something invariably crops up (e.g.archaeologically) to validate the Bible. The main difference between William and God is that if you seek God, you will find him, but it will be on his terms, not yours (i.e. not on demand or in your pride or self worth – these are not traits God admires). God is spirit and the issues listed above are all spiritual based, that mankind is spiritually separated from God by sin unless we take the offer of reconciliation that he alone provides – one that meets every accusation. If we can’t consider the spiritual aspects, it is much the same as being a super computer but not having the right operating system etc – it won’t make much sense of what goes in, and derive incorrect answers.

  10. Martin Marprelate

    Dave,
    If you want to find the love of God, don’t look at the world. There you can find the power and wisdom of God if you are not blind to it, and also His kindness and forebearance (Matt 5:45). But the world also shows God’s righteous judgement, that sinful man shall not live in a perfect world, and therefore death and misery have entered it.

    If you want to find the love of God, look to the cross. ‘In this the love of God was manifested toward us, that God has sent His only begotten Son into the world that we might live through Him. In this is love, not that we loved God, but that He loved us and sent His Son to be the propitiation for our sins’ (1 John 4:9-10).

    Martin

  11. Kathleen

    Who is it that causes cancer? Look at the chemical sprayed on your food the chemicals they feed the cows and other animals you eat. The additives, the aspartame , the chloride etc etc. The drugs they pump into you day after day in the doctors surgery etc etc. Hmmmm did God create these things ? Give me a text ! I’ll show you his healthy eating plan and the leaves which are for our healing.
    Does He start wars out of greed , hunger for power etc etc no He has no need too, everything belongs to Him .
    Does He wear the diamonds, gold etc etc for which men, women, children are exploited, starved and killed to put in your shop windows? No- do you?
    Did He create homosexuals No – but He did institute marriage between a man and a woman!
    Is God so greedy for money that He makes billions on taxes, interest on necessities such as food, heat, clothes, water and a roof over your head etc etc
    Does He dump tons and tons of food in the oceans everyday because there is no profit to be gained giving it to the starving nations?
    Does He steal the money aid etc from those in need – No – their governments do that most adequately.
    Sadly with people like yourselves God is in a no win situation for this reason. God is not a dictator who withholds your freedom to choose whether you do right or wrong. He does not throw insults at you when you have an opinion or believe differently.He does ask, that we, of the things we have in excess give to those who have not. He doesn’t ask that we of our greed aid in the suffering of those used to produce that which our vanities require. He has to allow man the freedom to choose so he asks that we speak and do our utmost to prevent all the injustices you speak of.
    Now then Stephen Green does his utmost to bring these things into the open thank God for him and others such as himself. I won’t ask the obvious question of yourselves, but I have found as a rule that those who shout about what God doesn’t do are those who cannot get off their bottoms and do those things which He asks that we do on His behalf.
    Whether you believe or not it is a fact that but for the reformers , men and women, who gave their lives for the God and Saviour you so reject and mock , you would not have all the freedoms you enjoy today ie abusing a man who strives to make things better for the downtrodden and those in need of a knowledge of their Saviour. Nor would you have an education etc etc for more info study the history of your nation.
    As a mother when my daughter asked my advice I would always show both sides of the coin and hope she would make a right decision. As a Father God allows us that same freedom to choose.
    Lastly whether you believe it or not those who create the wars and the misery will stand before the Righteous Judge and will pay every last penny believe me. As will those who work to turn the hearts of His children away for whom He gave so much.
    My question to you is where will you stand. ?
    Lastly God says “prove me and see ” I challenge you to do just that with a sincere heart, if you have the courage that is.

    1. Dave

      Is the medical establishment aware that you have full knowledge of how to prevent cancers?

      As for most of the rest of your post, you make a good argument. Man is responsible for all the bad things he does. But many evil things are done by mankind using God as an excuse or a reason. Yet your deity sits back and does nothing, which was basically the point of my original post.

      1. Al Gale

        Dave, as I read your answers to Kathleen I cannot help but notice you have not shown interest in taking her up on the offer she has asked of you. I have a sincere love for a man that gave up his life for me, so that I can be accepted, just as I am… (I know I do not deserve that) and that is by taking Him at His word, believing it as true (which is to good to be true!!!) and putting my own ‘knowledge’ to one side. I did that and decided to give him a chance to prove Himself just to me, on my own… When I did this, (and I do not know how I can describe this) I was really humbled because I sensed an overwhemling peace that flooded into my body, starting in my gut and chest. I had made a choice to test the word of God for myself and I long to be able to share the same with others that want to know.
        I would fully recommend you read again what Kathleen is trying to explain (far better than I) to you as I believe with all my heart, that you are very close to understanding what is yours… for no price… (it has been paid on the cross), and I will pray. Please open your heart, let it become softened and that will be your key to a transformation in your life. No man can do that for you, just you and God…

        kind regards,
        Alan

        1. Dave

          If I did, I could end up sounding as daffy as you lot. I do have some small measure of dignity.

        2. Leigh

          Al Gale, I know the feeling you describe the overwhelming peace that floods into your being for I too have felt it. It bought me to tears to feel the love and total acceptance for all that I am, even absolute forgiveness for having lost my way when I turned from my faith. The Goddess accepted me back and made me realise that she had always loved me even when I was blind to it. Never again will I turn from her arms and the unconditional love she has for all living things… She even loves Christians and accepts you and your religion pity the same can’t be said for you as some of you would still be burning the likes of me at the stake.
          Blessed Be,
          Leigh.

          1. Stephen

            Scary.

  12. Kathy Webb

    Kathleen, well done with your comment. It is well thought out and well presented. It is a shame that so many refuse to accept that God exists, there but for the Grace of God go I as I didn’t believe in him until 16 years ago. Knowing Him has changed my life in such an amazing way I could never deny His existence. The fact is that God hates NO ONE, He loves everyone but He does hate what we do especially when it hurts someone else.

  13. Kathleen

    Dave Hi
    Yes in actual fact the medical world do know that cancer can be cured with natural treatment but they make billions everyday with their drugs ! Why do you think there are so many laws by which one can be proscecuted for offering alternative medices ? Why do you think that Europe are bringing out laws that say one can only use for instance synthetic vitamins etc. Too much to go into now.
    With regard to wars caused by religion I agree with you totally more blood has been shed in the name of religion. But Dave “Religion” is not God ! Religion is again man.
    With regard to the question what does He do about wars etc.
    Man was created with an incredible gift. FREE WILL. I don’t know about you but I bitterly resent the powers that be that are working so diligently to take that away. To stop things like war God would have to interfere with every thought and action of humanity. Would you want that? Look at the way we all rebel at what we as teenagers consider the interference of our parents ! Would you want to live with every thought and decision censored ?
    But He did give us a choice when He sent His Son who took upon Him all our weaknesses and experienced all the temptations we do so that He could fully understand what we would have to face in life. And it tells us He was tempted in ALL points as we are. But what did we do with the answer to all the evil. We spat on Him, we tortured Him and nailed Him to across. Basically the world said we don’t want your way we want it our way.!
    He was there in the 9/11, in all the brave men and women who gave their lives to save others. Just one instance.!
    Is He doing something about it Enow? You can be absolutely certain that He is. Man chose the prince of this world to rule over them when we killed His son, but He has an appointed time which is very near when He is coming back as King and He will put an end to it once and for all and has promised it will not rise up a second time and that those who have created all this misery will be ashes under your feet Malachi 4:3 He will do His strange act Isaiah 28:18. He is not willing that any should perish 2 Peter 3:9 that is why He has to stand back and allow man to have their own way. It is so that when He does bring it to an end no one can say it was done because He is a dictator who wants His own way, but rather thankful that He has set us free.
    However having said all that there is no one that can convince you that He is. Only He can do that and He is so longing to make himself known to you. But you have ask because He will not force Himself on you or force you to worship Him He wants and requires that you make an intelligent decision. For instance you can’t say to me I hate such and such a film. I ask why? You say “I don’t know , I haven’t seen it”
    I would ask you to do something for me, if you will? Just ask Him if you are there show me. He will I guarantee it. And to know Him is to love Him.

  14. Kathleen

    Now Dave, where did I say I had full knowledge to prevent cancer ?? But in answer to your question, yes the medical world are aware of natural treatments and that they are more successfull. See Lorraine Day MD she is a Doctor who would not use the treatments given in hospial because she knew that they kill more than they cure and used the natural treatment given in scriptures and is completely clear and has been for years !! She has the medical experience you speak of. My friend given a short time 15 years ago is still free from it. Do you think they with all the billions they make from their drugs,they will encourage anything other than their banks !! Why do you think it is now being outlawed to use “Natural” vitimins but rather that they must be synthetic ? You need to search these things out.
    You are quite correct in what you say re the evil things done by mankind in the name of religion, I agree 100%. But the operative word in your statement is “Mankind” ! Religion is NOT GOD. Religion is Man. More blood has been shed in the world in the name of religion than anything else, because even in that men say “Its my way or no way”
    But does God do anthing ? There was the flood of course and that didn’t instill in us any sense! So then He sent His Son to live in the world we live in so that we couldn’t say “You don’t understand how hard it is” Then His Son lay down His life in the most horrendous way so that we could understand His love and compassion and so that we could have the power to live in the right way. He gave us His word so that we could learn of His ways.
    “And your ears shall hear a word behind you saying, This is the way walk in it” Isaiah 30 : 21
    But will we NO. When my daughter was around 6 years of age she was playing about with the cigarette lighter in the car and I told her not to do it. I pushed it in so that it got hot showed it to her explained it to her and how much it would hurt. When i was indoors one day she got into the car pushed it in and put her finger on it and was badly burned and Oh I cried for her. But was it my fault she was disobedient, no, did I feel her pain absolutely. Did I stop loving her No. My Father in heaven is like that and I do not have the space to tell you of the times He said No and I said yes, but I know what I went through because of it. Would I want whereby He controlled my every decision and my every thought and movement absolutely not and neither would you, because we value our right to freewill.A gift given by Him. WE get angry when the powers that be take steps to restrain that right. How much more would we hate God if He had kept full control in such a way. But to stop wars etc He would have to do just that and would be hated for that, hence I say He is in a no win situation. But I see Him in these situations. In 9/11 I saw Him in the men and women who gave so much to save others. And I felt His pain and His tears.
    Is He doing anything aboutall these things most certainly. He hasan appointed time when He is coming again this time as King and it is not far off now. He told us about all of the things you speak of and more so that we can know the times. You see Dave the world chose the Prince of this world Satan and killed His Son and now He must allow the world to see just what that choice means and when He comes it will be because His people are crying out “Come Lord Jesus” and He cannot come until His people are safe as it was when Lot was taken away from Sodom. Lot wanted to go somewhere different when told where to go and the answer was “Go then but hurry because I cannot destroy this place until YOU ARE SAFE ” That is Grace abounding. He came to do destroy the evil in that place because of the cries of a righteous man. He wouldn’t have done if there had benn 10 good men there so that tells you how bad it was, now look at that story in the light of the world you live in.!
    But He has promised that this will never rise up a second time and so will have to do His STRANGE work. It is strange to Him to destroy because He is Life. But He will wipe out utterly all that is evil and the men who have caused such misery will pay to the very last penny and they will be ashes underour feet Malachi 4 : 3 and at that time His people will agree that He is right to do so and Praise Him for it and no one will ever say you are a dictator.
    I hope with all my heart that instead of looking to disprove that He is, that you just ask Him to reveal Himself to your heart because He is yearning over you. Do you know that you fulfil prophesy with your question ? I will close with this.
    “The Lord is not slack concerning His promises as SOME MEN count slacknesss; but is longsuffering to us ward NOT WILLING that ANY should PERISH but that ALL should come to repentance” 3 Peter 3 : 9 read on from that to verse 14
    Give HIm a chance – just ask – what are you afraid of ?

    1. Dave

      Kathleen – because cancer is a subject that is too personally close to my heart, I’m not going to comment any further. However, for an alternative view on Lorraine Day, see http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Cancer/day.html

    2. Dave

      What am I afraid of? Losing my reasoning mind, what little self respect I have, and my freedom. Look, if your deity wants a chat, he knows where I live.

  15. Kathleen

    Sorry about duplicate post. I thought it hadn’t gone and did it again : ()

  16. Kathleen

    Thank you for the link Dave I’ll certainly look at it. I’m not someone who will not see another side so will look at it with an open mind. I’m so sorry to hear that you have in some way been touched by this and whatever it may be I do hope and pray that you will overcome all the pain it can cause.
    I’ll post my thought on the link. Thank you very much for taking the time to post it.
    Take care

  17. Kathleen

    Thank you Dave for that link I’m quite shocked actually and have passed it on to a few people I know who often quote her.
    However I do know of a few people who have been healed using a natural treatment perhaps it does depend on how far it has progressed. And I have to be honest and say that I also know of a couple of people who also are in remission having normal treatments.
    I also do know how many of the drugs given do cause serious side effects. My husband has a lung transplant and the drugs he takes have caused kidney failure and many other things. Many years ago I had a throat infection got antibiotics from the doctor and having taken two my skin turned dark grey and I phoned the doctored and was told take no more and the doctor came out and said if I had taken another one I would have probably had a massive heart attack! They were new on the market and I was the first one he had given them too. So I am very wary of drugs and do treat any illness i have with alternative methods. It’s takes longer but it does work. Today I think we all want a quick fix and people want everything now ! I am also very aware that there a lot of charlatans out there who have jumped on the band wagon and am very grateful for that info so thank you again.
    Take care blessings to you and yours.

  18. Kathleen

    Dave, by the way. I was invited yesterday to watch a movie called ” The Adjustment Bureau ” and I thought of you in view of our discussion on free will. Watch it if you can get from Blockbusters. My question to you will be. “Would you that” I would be interested to hear your thoughts.
    Take care my friend

  19. Dave

    You saw Matt Damon and thought of me? I’m flattered (though I don’t think Matt would be). Remember, it’s only a fantasy story. There are no real masters of fate.

  20. Kathleen

    Well I think he would be if he was aware of your honesty in expression.
    It is fantasy ( the movie that is ) but the reality is that the Elite are working very hard to take that freewill away. But I was trying to say that if the creator were to stop all the evil actons of man He would have to control our every move and thought, and I would not like that —- At all. It is the fact that we were created with that freedom to choose that amazes me. And the fact that He, knowing the choices I would make in my life, ( you wouldn’t want to know ), went to the cross and took my punishment, leaves me speechless ! Which as you have probably gathered doesn’t happen very often LOL

    1. Dave

      The ‘Elite’ have been doing that for millenia. It’s just that what was once considered the ‘Elite’ i.e. the Church (of whatever stripe) is now becoming increasingly irrelevant (yay!). As for free will, you can’t hand out gifts then complain when people use them.

  21. Kathleen

    Whose complaining !?

  22. Kathleen

    If you think the churches are the Elite your way off beat my friend. I don’t have much for churches either.
    As I said before religions are man made.

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    [...] They have had the embarrassment of the ‘big price drop’ flop, the worst perfomance of the ‘big four’ over Christmas, the humiliation of their market share dropping below 30% for the first time since they achieved that milestone, a shock profits warning, their share price plummet almost 20%, wiping almost £5bn of their valuation, their UK operations CEO sacked, their local management in a spin and a plague of mice which shut their Covent Garden store. [...]

  2. A plague on Tesco « Headbutter of the Gods

    [...] notably Christian Voice, have picked up on this and assigned the blame squarely where it belongs – a donation from Tesco to London Gay Pride [...]

  3. Archives All Available » Christian Voice UK

    [...] Tesco – now it’s mice infestations [...]

  4. Tesco goes from bad to worse » Christian Voice UK

    [...] sacked their UK operations CEO, and then had to contend with an infestation of mice in their flagship Tesco Metro in Bedford Street in London’s Covent [...]

  5. Christian Voice Links Giant Mouse Infestation To Gay Pride Campaign | Londonist

    [...] Chindaret has pointed out on Twitter that Green has been making this link since a mildly bizarre blogpost he wrote in March last year. We had thought Pink News  were over-stating the situation with their [...]

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