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Sep 06

Back to School & welcome to Diwali term

A girl and her mother light a Diwali lamp or ‘diya’ as part of a swastika pattern for Hindu ‘puja’

It’s that time of year when schools are gearing up to promote the Hindu festival ‘Diwali’ with shrines to elephant gods and marks on foreheads. 

A new Christian Voice resource for parents, school governors, pastors and leaders strips away the mask to reveal the darkness behind the Diwali lights.

We are giving away free copies of Diwali – a parents’ guide to everyone joining Christian Voice from September to November.  Get this resource now, before the diyas are lit and the puja (that’s Hindi for worship) begins.

The idea behind modern multi-cultural religious education is that all faiths are valid paths to the same God or god.  Since light is an element of many faiths, different festivals of ‘light’ or ‘lights’ are used to show that the different religions are really just the same.

The truth behind Diwali – the ‘festival of lights’

Diwali celebrates the mythical home-coming of Rama and Sita in which the people lit diyas to show them the way.

According to one Hindu source we quote in Diwali – a parents’ guide, “Diwali symbolises the destruction of evil and the return of peace and happiness … a celebration of the triumph of good over evil.”

As the children sit by their shrines to the elephant god in classrooms up and down the land, their parents won’t be told that Rama, according to the Hindu scriptures, went on to marry many other women as well as Sita, mutilated and tortured women, called his father a fool and an idiot and burnt the Dravidians of Sri Lanka alive.  So much for peace and happiness.

Hinduism’s social darkness

The demon goddess Durga is depicted with lethal weapons in her ten hands, and is said to delight in ‘wine, flesh and sacrifice’.

Nor will they be told, as their children paint red tilak dots on each others’ foreheads, about the Hindu caste system which keeps millions of families in permanent bondage, about dowry murders of young brides, about female infanticide nor about the ritual slaughter of buffalo and horses to appease the Hindu goddess Durga.

In all the talk of light, no school will own up to the darkness of Hindu violence over the thousands of Dalits (or ‘Untouchables’) converting to Christianity nor about how the idea of reincarnation and ‘karma’ means that beggars must be left to suffer for their sins in a previous life.

But we’ll tell you, in Diwali – a parents’ guide.

We’ll give you all the background to the Diwali festival, set out the Hindu belief system with its demonic ‘trinity’, explain how the caste system keeps one racial group in permanent ascendancy, and show you how the Hindu faith works out in practice.

Armed with this information, parents, grandparents, school governors, ministers of the Gospel, pastors and leaders can help support teachers refuse to celebrate Diwali.  And if a school persists with the festival, parents have the right to take their children out of lessons.  And if you are a teacher – or just interested in religious education – you need this valuable resource.

Diwali – a parents’ guide is free when you join Christian Voice from September to November 2012.

Or read an online version HERE

Read our aims and stament of faith and find out how you can join Christian Voice here (clicking on the link below does not commit you to joining):

 

Just two of the many relevant scriptures we quote in Diwali – a parents’ guide:

Exod 20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: 5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them.

John 8:12: Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life. 

 

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  1. Andrew

    It’s interesting that even people like Carl Sagan and Stephen Hawking have paid far more than lip service to Hinduism. To quote Sagan: “Hindu religion is the only one of the world’s great faiths dedicated to the idea that the cosmos itself undergoes an immense, indeed an infinite number of deaths and rebirths.
    “It is the only religion in which the time scales correspond, no doubt, by accident, to those of modern scientific cosmology. Its cycles run from our ordinary day and night to a day and night of Brahma 8.64 billion years long. Longer than the age of the earth or the sun and about half of the time since the big bang. And there are much longer time scales still”
    It’s not hard to notice that this pagan religion is not disimular to the religion and philosophy of evolution or the wacky speculations of people like Stephen Hawking and has been a source and inspiration for both the new age pseudo theoretical “scientists” as well as the the new age agenda in general. The blending of science falsley called and the new age is nothing new to those who have observed the close relation to things like climate change to earth worship and “unity and oneness” and satanic theosophy blending into the “evolutionary” growth of the cosmos.
    It should come as no surprise that false pagan religions can go hand in glove with modern new age “science” and are very simular to the ramblings of people like Hawkins and Sagan. After all they both have their roots in ancient Babylon and why these pagan religions are so heavily promoted while it’s becoming more and fasionable for the world to mock christianity and belief in the one true living God who did create the universe according to the Genesis account.

  2. Shahzad Bashir

    Yes, i am 100% in favour of your effort to reveal the true , darkest side of pagan religion Hinduism. Our Western and Asian people easily get attracted to Hindusim due to its colourful events, cermonies, and very social and inviting approach. It is mainly because we don’t teach our kids about religions of the world. We need to sit with our kids and families and tell them a difference what makes us different than others. What is so distinct about Christianity? What are the promises God makes with us when we have believe in Lord Jesus Christ.

    I have a request for Christian Voice and all other Christian leaders, groups, Churches , organizations etc.

    We need to advocate in this World that we always call our lord ” Lord Jesus Christ” and not only Jesus, Christ and Jesus Christ. We have to exalt His name above all names. We need to advocate to Governments and UN that whosoever refers to our Lord must pronounce Him as ” Lord Jesus Christ” both in verbal and in writing. ‘

    We as Christians need to accept Him our Lord and proclaim Him Lord Jesus Christ in our Churches, homes, offices, meetings, gatherings, writings, sermons etc. Then people will follow us.

    we need to run campaigns in the world especially in the Western world to exalt our faith and Lord Jesus Christ. We need to be courageous to proclaim our Lord Jesus Christ as only begotten SON of GOD.

    If upto me i would make it a law that Lord Jesus Christ is the son of God and be honored , respected and revered to in this land.

    We need to mobilize Christian Democratic Government of David Cameron to ban such pagan religion activities in all the UK based schools, hotels, gatherings etc as it is against the teachings of the Bible. However, Hindus may have liberty to celebrate at their tempels, houses and places etc.

    But it is a very common deceit that “all roads lead to rome”, not all religions/gods are truly from the living true Jehovah God of Israelites , He is only one true living God and rest are all the creation of man’s hand. some are wood, others are stones, cloth, mud, clay and nothing else.

    They have mouth but they can’t speak, ears but can’t listen, eyes but can’t see. Those who worship them will also become like them dumb, blind, deaf and totally lost in ambiguity and ingnorance.

    We need to speak educate people around us that what is idolatory and how can one be victim of it.

    We need to equip our children well, in Churches, houses and in the sunday schools with Biblical teachings about who is true God and what makes a false god and godesses.

    We need to publically speak against any pagans and such religions. But in today’s world we have become so much enchanted and influeced by modern satanic approaches like “interfaith harmony” which tries to distart the true image and spirit of Christianity. It attempts to deshape our mission priorities. We tend to believe that all other religions are also true, divine, heavenly, and are from God and are leading people to one true Jehovah God who is the creator and keeper of this universe and all seen and unseen.

    We need to be strong, bold, courageous, tactful, wise, lead by Holy spirit and at the same time very accepting, loving and caring about people of other faiths not to show that we accept their religious rituals but to show them that we accept them in the love of Lord Jesus Christ and expect them to know and accept one true God.

    I really appreciate your efforts towards exalting the Lord Jesus Christ and Christianity in the UK.

    wish every blessing upon all your plans, programs, ideas, resources, friends, enemies, ministry partners and on all that belongs to you always in all ways . Amen

  3. GB

    Amazing that whilst highlighting the primitive aspects of Hinduism (of which there are indeed many) – you guys are totally blind to the primitive aspects of the Judao-Christian religion.

    Which is actually pretty much all of it.

    But then again, that is hardly surprising, anyone deluded enough to think that The Bible/Torah/Koran, and that god/s exist is true is so far past the point of rational & balanced thinking that you will not be too surprised that as you get all worked up over Diwali…the rational, thinking world finds your indignant huffings and puffings increasingly amusing – as they are irrelevant to the world as it really is.

    1. Stephen

      Yes, of course, God’s laws prohibiting murder, betraying your wife or husband, stealing, lying or wanting what isn’t yours, commanding respect for parents and those in authority, paying people what is due to them, not cursing the disabled, using trustworthy weights and measures, not perverting the course of justice with bribes, restoring what you have stolen or wantonly destroyed, not stealing men into slavery, looking after widows and orphans, making sure livestock are under control, keeping tools and equipment in good order, keeping your word, having care for your neighbour and his property, doing justice without partiality, all these are far too primitive to be observed in a modern secular/atheist society, aren’t they?

      1. Phoebe Seymour

        Principles which had all found voice in other religions – including aspects of Hinduism – long before the invention of the Christian / Jewish deity

        1. Stephen

          Hinduism, a pagan / pantheist religion, goes back a long way, and has much in common with Canaanite and Egyptian beliefs. There are some points of similarity between pagan laws and God’s laws. There are also many differences, not least in social justice, as we point out in Diwali – a parents’ guide. But from his snobbish (and ignorant) atheist position Greg is saying all these ancient principles of law are ‘primitive’ and beneath contempt.

          1. Monika McPherson

            I didn’t detect that that was what Greg was saying at all. Rather, I took him as pointing out the hypocrisy of an adherent of Christianity presuming to criticise aspects of another faith – here Hinduism – as having barbarous features.

            Assuming I’m right about what Greg meant, allow me to develop the theme. One doesn’t need to delve too deeply into the Bible, and especially the Old Testament, to find a deity that few would think was deserving of adoration.

            The Bible accounts for God killing 2,552,452 people. Satan, the enemy of humanity, has a running tally of 10. Particular highlights must be his slow killing of a baby (2 Sam 12:14-18), the killing of 42 children by she-bears for mocking a bald prophet (2 Kings 2:23-24), and the sending of lions to eat those who didn’t fear him enough (2 Kings 17:25-26).

            It is not especially persuasive for Christian believers to take the high moral ground on this one given their faith is literally steeped in blood.

          2. Stephen

            You’ll be able to provide a full breakdown of that figure, right? You didn’t just get it off some website, did you?

          3. Phoebe Seymour

            Do you challenge the number or the principle, Stephen?

            If it’s just a case of whether god killed 100,000 more or less, it hardly seems worth quarrelling about. I ask, because it seems odd that the best response you can muster is a half-smart query about the maths.

            I imagine the figure is easily – but tediously – capable of being checked by actually reading the text concerned.

            Much the same way as “scientists” who believe in the Judo-Christian Creation myth date the universe.

          4. Stephen

            Well, we need to know who they were? Perhaps the people in the cultures destroyed were carrying out human sacrifice and sexual perversion, practising all kinds of injustice, in which respect for human life had disappeared? So if you could tell us who these people were and how the figure has been arrived at, we should be better able to trust what you say.

          5. Stephen

            I challenge ignorant people who can’t be bothered to substantiate what they write. And if you start on creation myths, you might be challenged to substantiate the evolution myth by telling us the evolutionary purpose of the tuft on the head of the tufted duck (no, it’s not ‘to get a mate’ because sparrows manage to do that quite well without one).

          6. Steve McHale

            You’ve been given three examples already by Monika. Why don’t you start your analysis with those.

            Two of those three examples involve those well known perverts and general sowers of discord – children. And one of those an infant.

            Rather than calling for an accounting of all two million, why don’t we start with those?

            Any thoughts to offer up, Stephen, on how you go about justifying those killings whilst still maintaining that Christianity is in some way a morally superior religion to Hinduism?

          7. Stephen

            Ms McPherson wrote: ‘The Bible accounts for God killing 2,552,452 people. Satan, the enemy of humanity, has a running tally of 10. Particular highlights must be his slow killing of a baby (2 Sam 12:14-18), the killing of 42 children by she-bears for mocking a bald prophet (2 Kings 2:23-24), and the sending of lions to eat those who didn’t fear him enough (2 Kings 17:25-26).’

            No-one on this page has yet justified the 2.5m figure, and from the other side no-one has yet bothered to credit Satan with the Holocaust, the Nazi instigation of World War II, the slaughters of the French and Russian Revolutions, the Cambodian Killing Fields, the massacres in communist China and North Korea, and other atheist atrocities. But this isn’t a numbers game. You are challenging the righteousness of the Almighty.

            In the Bible references so far given in support of the 2.5m, you and Ms McPherson are referring to the death of David’s baby born from his adulterous relationship with Bathsheba, Elisha cursing children who insulted him, and the lions sent amongst the Assyrians. I think the lessons are: don’t committ adultery, don’t mock the elderly and don’t throw the people of Israel out of their land.

            But I am puzzled. We have two people who do not believe in God and deny the miraculous, two people who, if they were being faithful to their beliefs, should say that it was pure chance that David’s baby died, that the bears just happened that way and that lions were common in those days. And yet these two people are ascribing all three events directly to Almighty God. Well, it’s a start.

            James 2:19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.

          8. Monika McPherson

            I suspect you’ve missed the point, Stephen.

            I imagine that the two people in question – like me – don’t actually believe that the three events in question are an historical account at all. So it’s pointless to then look at whether they ought to be ascribed to chance or divine intervention.

            You, on the other hand (unless I’ve misunderstood you) believe that the Bible is the divinely inspired and inerrant word of the Judeo-Christian deity. It’s you who has to – b ecause the Bible says it happened this way – ascribe these particular deaths to said deity. I’m sure the lesson to David’s and Bathsheba’s son, killed by your deity because of his parents’ adultery, is one the child learned well.

            Unless you’re willing to allow for the possibility that said Bible is not inerrant after all and / or the bits that paint your deity in a less than flattering light need to be tempered by interpretation or some such nonsense.

          9. Stephen

            People out there grieving for their dead child will hardly be comforted by your idea that his or her death has or should have no impact on the parents.

            But if you don’t believe the Biblical events happened anyway, there is no more to say.

            Thank you for your interest in Christian Voice.

          10. Monika McPherson

            Afternoon Stephen.

            You ask earlier in this thread about the evolutionary purpose for something: specifically the tufted duck’s tuft.

            The mere fact you’re asking after purpose belies a fundamental lack of understanding about what you call the evolutionary myth.

            The theory of evolution (and I use the expression theory in its scientific sense, in the same way as the theory of gravity, thermodynamics, etc) is the change in the inherited characteristics of biological populations over successive generations.

            The widely accepted theory of evolution is by natural selection: the process that is inferred from three facts about populations.

            1) more offspring are produced than can possibly survive
            2) traits vary among individuals, leading to differential rates of survival and reproduction, and
            3) trait differences are heritable

            Natural selection is the only known cause of adaptation, but not the only known cause of evolution. Other, nonadaptive causes of evolution include mutation and genetic drift.

            The fact that you start by looking for a purpose behind a particular adaption shows you neither know nor care about the myth you deride. Evolution by natural selection has no deliberate purpose behind it. If a particular mutation leads to greater rates of survival and reproduction, it is passed on to subsequent generations. If it does not, then heritability means the mutation is unlikely to survive into the next generation.

            To impute purpose is to make the mistake with evolution that you do with faith: that a puppet master is behind the scenes pulling the strings.

          11. Stephen

            Actually, natural selection only comes into operation after the mythical genetic modifications have occured. ‘Natural selection’ is not synomymous with ‘evolution’, neither does ‘evolution’ occur solely by ‘natural selection’. Things evolve when something new happens to them. According to the theory, evolution creates new genetic material and natural selection weeds it out in the ‘survival of the fittest’ process.

            So how does the tuft on the head of the tufted duck lead to ‘greater rates of survival and reproduction’?

          12. Delores McShane

            Where was it suggested that natural selection was synonomous with evolution?

            Evolution occurs through natural selection, but also by other means (such as mutation and genetic drift).

            As the previous poster made clear, but which was then ignored, natural selection is the only known process of evolutionary adaption.

            As for the tufted duck of which you are so fond, whether the tuft leads to greater rates of survival and reproduction is easily tested: are the ducks with more prominent tufts more successful in finding mates than those without? If yes, then the advantage is pretty plain.

          13. Stephen

            Please don’t insult our intelligence. How does the tuft on the head of the tufted duck lead to ‘greater rates of survival and reproduction’ for that species, given that other birds manage to reproduce and thrive without one?

        2. Delores McShane

          So the Judeo-Christian deity required the death of a child as atonement for his parents’ sin of adultery. Sounds a lot like child sacrifice to me. Your religion and Hinduism aren’t as far removed from one another as you’d like to pretend.

          1. Stephen

            No, it wasn’t atonement, it was a consequence. Almighty God does not ask for human sacrifice, ask for widows to cast themselves on their husbands’ funeral pyres or institute a caste system which ensures one race always rules and keeps another section of the population permanently ‘untouchable’. There are more examples of the social consequences of Hinduism in ‘Diwali, a parents’ guide’.

          2. Monika McPherson

            Atonement / consequence. Sounds like an angels on the head of a pin style debate to me. Whilst I’m sure you see a world of difference because you condemn one system whilst promoting your own, those with a little more perspective will struggle to see a distinction.

          3. Stephen

            You need a basic working knowledge of Christian theology to enter this debate (and a dictionary helps as well). Anyone with half a brain (unless they are totally prejudiced by anti-Christian preconceptions of course) will see the difference between an egalitarian social system and one based on caste, I should hope.

          4. Stephen

            And I’ll say something else about the death of David and Bathsheba’s child. I have never met an atheist who did not support legalised abortion. So here they are pretending to be concerned about someone they regard as a fictional child, whilst not raising a finger to defend the 6 million indisputably real innocent children murdered by abortion in the United Kingdom since 1968.
            In the United States, the figure is 50 million since 1973, and world wide, it is said to be over 1,260,000,000.
            I am not even going to ascribe those deaths to Satan. Mortal man, relying on his reason and wisdom, and at the instigation of atheist campaigners, has passed these abortion laws and legalised this holocaust. And they accuse Almighty God of injustice?

  4. Isaac McKay

    Thanks for this. We need to be told the truth about this religion. But not only this religion. We need to know the very real and dark truths behind Buddhism, Taoism, Islam, etc! I hope there will be more manuscripts of this ilk!

  5. peter Hinchliffe

    Great stuff, everyone Else’s religion is false but yours is correct! The children should not be taught these false religions but should instead be taught yours and why it is right. Well your some of the way there, keep going and one day the totally *****ing obvious may suddenly occur to you.

    1. Stephen

      Don’t worry, it already has!

  6. Pavel

    You seem to misss the point of what people are saying time and again, Stephen. 2.5 million or 2 killed, the principle is the same. How many do you have to kill to be a murderer? But all this pales into total insignificance compared with the fact that you believe that all who died as non-Christians – which is the large majority of those who have ever lived – are tortured eternally (or at least condemned to it) by your God. Whatever happened in your thinking to the Christian God of Love?!

    Perhaps it is because you believe in such an aggressive, vindictive God that you are so aggressive in your approach to religion and to discussion – “please don’t insult our intelligence”, “you need a dictionary”, “anyone with half a brain”. What has this to do with the Jesus who said, “By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another.”

    Christianity is about transformed lives – lives that try to follow what Jesus said was the essential heart of faith: love God with all your heart, soul and mind and love your neighbour as yourself. You won’t get anyone to transform his/her life by argument or by condemning them. Try love, encouragement and example. It worked for Jesus!

    1. Stephen

      Hmm, that’s a bit of a one-dimensional Lord Jesus you have there. You won’t find much ‘encouragement’ in these sayings of the Lord (but we’ll take them as examples of tough love!):
      Matt 15:7 Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying, 8 This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
      Matt 16:23 But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.
      Matt 22:18 But Jesus perceived their wickedness, and said, Why tempt ye me, ye hypocrites?
      Matt 24:51 And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
      Matt 25:26 His lord answered and said unto him, Thou wicked and slothful servant, thou knewest that I reap where I sowed not, and gather where I have not strawed:
      Luke 9:60 Jesus said unto him, Let the dead bury their dead: but go thou and preach the kingdom of God.
      Luke 12:56 Ye hypocrites, ye can discern the face of the sky and of the earth; but how is it that ye do not discern this time?
      Luke 13:32 And he said unto them, Go ye, and tell that fox, Behold, I cast out devils, and I do cures to day and to morrow, and the third day I shall be perfected.
      Luke 19:27 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.
      John 2:15 And when he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the changers’ money, and overthrew the tables;
      Rev 19:11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.

      But let us not forget the love of God in Christ:
      John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
      Acts 13:38 Be it known unto you therefore, men and brethren, that through this man is preached unto you the forgiveness of sins:
      Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

  7. Guy Heaton

    As a christian parent I am happy for my daughter to learn comparative religion but I also teach her christs own words that clearly state that He is the only route to God.

    At the age of 6 though I think we will leave the darker aspects of how mankind has used all religions for power and control over others for a different day. I doubt her hindu classmate and friend wants to subjigate her just yet so we will leave that idea out of her thoughts for a little while.

    1. Stephen

      That’s why our briefing paper is called ‘A Parents’ Guide’ rather than ‘A little tot’s guide’. It’s not her clasmates you have to be concerned about so much as her teachers.

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